déjàvu

NOTE: This image was originally posted on Thursday 15 Feb 2018. While an error led to its deletion, we have attempted to restore as many of the comments/insights as possible. Restored (by proxy) comments below. Apologies again all.

Partially restored comments- -------------------------- beachcomber australia said: According to the Great God of Google, Reutlinger photographic studio was at 21 Boulevard Montmartre in Paris. BoulevardView And a bit of Reutlinger history - including: "... Léopold continued to run the studio until he lost an eye in an accident with a champagne cork in 1930..... -------------------------- Carol Maddock said: Given by Maud "To M[...] Harvey fellow Nationalist" on April 19th '96 in Paris. Mr Harvey? McHarvey? That was a Sunday. -------------------------- Sharon Corbet said: Carol Maddock - Edmund Harvey according to this collection list. -------------------------- Carol Maddock said: Sharon Corbet - Thanks Sharon! -------------------------- John Spooner said: In 1901 The Tatler published a full-page picture of Maud Gonne as "The Irish Joan of Arc". I mention this only because the photo was credited to Chancellor of Dublin, which means she was very probably conveyed to the 'Galleries' by means of his Movable Boudoir. [New readers: the term "Movavble Boudoir" is explained in the comments here] -------------------------- Sharon Corbet said: Here's Edmund Harvey in the 1901 census in Waterford. He write pamphlets apparently, including "Ireland's parliamentary representation: a comparison of the treatment of minorities in the United States, and in the British Isles". -------------------------- Sharon Corbet said: Maud Gonne's wiki page with some info on her family and early life, as requested... -------------------------- Sam said: She had more than one husband at that, I think. And she was mistress to a French politician before she met McBride. Actually, that's something that really grates - W. B. Yeats is made out like a hero today but out of jealousy of McBride he spread pretty serious stories about him. When McBride died Yeats waited a short while and asked Maud Gonne to {comment only partially restored - some lost to the digital ether - apologies to sam2cents}. -------------------------- Sam said: By the way... I love this portrait. She was a babe in her day! -------------------------- Sharon Corbet said: John Spooner - Reutlingers also seemed to have a "Movable Boudoir" - at least their cards advertised that they had both a telephone and an "ascenseur". -------------------------- oaktree_brian_1976 said: Reutlinger died in 1888. His enterprise was still in business it seems. -------------------------- Carol Maddock said: Sam We have a life-size photo of Maud here at Library Towers, taken in 1893. The plate was ginormous (technical term) - "This portrait was taken using a specially designed camera built by J. V. Robinson of Malahide and capable of taking plates as large as six feet by four feet. It required two men to work the camera from the inside." -------------------------- Sam said: Carol Maddock That sounds like an incredible camera - whatever happened to it? Would I be right in thinking the National Library doesn't have a scanner quite big enough for the 6'x4's? -------------------------- Carol Maddock said: Sam I went off for a rummage seeking Edward Chandler's book, Photography in Ireland (2001), and found this great information for camera/developer nerds everywhere on that not quite life-sized image of Maud, as I claimed above. If she was 1.83m, as the always truthful internet tells me, then she was just over 6ft. tall in old money, and this image was {comment only partially restored - some lost to the digital ether - apologies to carol}. -------------------------- Carol Maddock said: Sam P.S. I did ask our Digital Elves if they had a scanner big enough, but they said that if they told me, then they'd have to kill me. -------------------------- philfluther said: The Hannah Arendt of WW1, "an inconceivable madness". -------------------------- John Spooner said: Sam Here is J V Robinson's obituary in the Irish Times on Monday 21 October 1901. -------------------------- Sam said: John Spooner - Thanks John! I like the line 'in this age of universal electric lighting'. -------------------------- oaktree_brian_1976 said: Miss Gonne belongs to an English and Protestant family; it was because she owned land in Ireland that she had the opportunity to witness the painful spectacle of Irish misery and resolved to relieve it. "I gave my life to Ireland, she tells us, until the home ride is stolen. But I did not give up the religion of my fathers. Miss Maud, tall and {comment partially lost - apologies} -------------------------- oaktree_brian_1976 said: Maud Gonne gave lectures. In a monotonous and tireless voice, taking from her aquamarine eyes the sky to witness, she narrated the misery of the peasants of her country, the atrocities of landlords, and dedicated to the wrath of Hell the Protestants of Ulster she called "these abominable Orangist hypocrites". Le Cri de Paris / dir. P. Dollfus / 1918-05-26 -------------------------- Sam said: Carol Maddock - J. V. Robinson must have been a pretty successful photographer in the first place to afford such a device, and very proficient at the scientific arts involved to have designed such a beast. Someone worth knowing way more about. As for Maud Gonne, I had no idea she was so tall, but I see in group photos she towers over other women. Her daughter, the one Yeats was interested in, was very -------------------------- oaktree_brian_1976 said: She was big in France. I'll post some links in a bit... Her son founded Amnsty International. She was six foot tall with auburn hair and fire in her eyes. Rrrrrr. --------------------------

I love that direct gaze, but Maud, please put down the knitting needles! That boa has a mind of its own.

I've attempted to translate the truncated comment above: Miss Gonne belongs to an English and Protestant family; it was because she owned land in Ireland that she had the opportunity to witness the painful spectacle of Irish misery and resolved to relieve it. "I gave my life to Ireland, she tells us, until the home rule voted upon. But I did not give up the religion of my fathers. Miss Maud, tall and slender, with a frail appearance, conceals a virile energy. Her face, seen from afar, seems of a fine, slightly imprecise sweetness; as we approach we sees her features accentuated, to reveal the marks of the voluntary force: one discovers, almost, a man, where one had foreseen almost an angel of the ceiling. The eyes, immense and clear, denounce the ardent faith which governs, at Miss Maud's, practical vigor. As she was asked the origin of her stay in France: "I was obliged," she replied, "to stay there, because the fatigue of the meetings in the open air had weakened my chest. I had a broken vessel, and the doctors ordered me a season in the South, which is how I came to know you." La Femme newspaper, March 15, 1892. gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5510090w/f6.item

It's déjà vu all over aGonne ! Good work National Library of Ireland on The Commons Maud speaks (virtually spooky) ... youtu.be/tCUmxjA-Xbs youtu.be/AMW8M_Xn4O4

I'm getting deja vu here.

Coolmore streetview.

The same photo: www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6165092953/

The O'Brien's on West Quay, now Ashe Quay.

One of the shots of Baby is commissioned by Col. Butcher, Eastlands, Tramore An uncle, perhaps? Their mother is apparently named Eily in the census (Lily, perhaps?), and is only 25, so the 1901 might show her maiden name. Wow, 344 Eilys in 1901! She wasn't Eily Butcher, though, or at least is not in the Census. Perhaps Col. Butcher's wife was an O'Brien? Or perhaps the family were in England, as Butcher was an English army officer...

It isn't the Prince of Wales Avenue in Belfast, which leads up to Stormont..... It is Prince of Wales Avenue in Whitehead, Co Antrim: www.google.ie/maps/@54.7503345,-5.7128268,3a,75y,296.12h,...

Rory Sherlock Well done Rory! The confusion has not taken over completely - yet:-)

National Library of Ireland on The Commons Good call on the 'almost a seaside atmosphere on this' vibe!

Definitely a sense of Deja Vu. We certainly had somewhere very like this before.

Good dog!