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The Carman jury at the Nassau County Courthouse. See: query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40615F63D5C13738... Carman Jurors Quickly Chosen Not a Bachelor in Box, Which is Filled in Less Than Five Hours October 20, 1914 New York Times The Carman Jury of Married Men Foreman - ROBERT F. LUDLAM, oyster dealer, married; Oyster Bay. No. 2 - ALOIS ANGLER, barber, married; Central Park, L.I. No. 3 - FRANK D. MOUNT, builder, married; Oceanside. No. 4 - WILLIAM G. HOVEY, traveling salesman, married; Woodmere. No. 5 - MARK GOTTSCH, gardener, married; New Hyde Park. No. 6 - ALVIN W. SMITH, painter, married; Cedarhurst. No. 7 - JAMES V. GIRAUD, gardener, married; Merrick. No. 8 - JACOB ANTON, retired, married; Mineola. No. 9 - JOHN H. MOLYNEAUX, liveryman, married; Port Washington. No. 10 - JOSEPH H. ASHTON, manager, married; Port Washington. No. 11 - EUGENE E. CARPENTER, builder, married; Port Washington. No. 12 - CHARLES D. STRYKER, seedsman, married; Floral Park. "They all look to be intelligent men," Mrs. Carman said, "and I am sure I shall receive a fair trial. Personally I would have selected any twelve of the list and would have felt sure that they would find me innocent."

TVL 1970: Thanks for the New York Times article identifying the members of the Carman jury. Possibly the foreman Robert F. Ludlam is standing in front of the others. We will add some more details to the image description.

Arden Given Ludlam's style of mustache, shirt collar, and the number of buttons on his coat (four), I suspect Robert F. Ludlam (or, more accurately, the person identified as Ludlam in the other LOC Bain photo) is the first man standing on the left in the front row, rather than the man standing in the foreground on the right side of the frame (three buttons on his coat, different style of mustache than Ludlam has in the photo LOC Bain photo below.) Of course, given the gentleman on the right's prominent position in the photo of the Carman jurors, another possibility is Bain misidentified the juror in the photo below as Ludlam.

Bain's photo of the Carman House (scene of the crime):

There are 13 men in the picture, and 12 jurors, unless one is an alternate juror. I think a better guess is that the man with pride of place at right is the bailiff, who would have accompanied the jurors. I think it is indeed Ludlam on the left.

genealogytrails.com/ny/queens/news_crime.html Summarizes the upcoming case on Oct 16,1914. From Chicago Day Book.

NYT of Jan 25, 1929 [subscription probably required] select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60F12F93C5A167A... indicates that there were two trials of Florence Carman for the murder of Lulu Bailey, and that the jurors disagreed at the first and she was acquitted at the second. NYT of April 4, 1915 query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30C15FA395B17738... announces that the second trial would begin soon. So these are presumably the jurors who disagreed.

swanq: Thanks for the information on the two Carman trials. We will include some of the details in the image description when we update.

The Carman House (and six other photos of actors in the Carman murder drama):

A group portrait of the Carman Jury (first trial):

Elizabeth Carman was the 9-year-old daughter of Dr. and Mrs. Edwin Carman; Mrs. Carman was on trial for killing Lulu Bailey, and Elizabeth testifed at the inquest in the summer of 1914.

pennylrichardsca: Thank you for identifying the daughter of Dr. and Mrs. Carman. We will expand the title and add some details when we update the image description.

The Carman house (murder scene) and other photos connected with the Carman drama: