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Big Tim Sullivan - political hard man who met an ignominious end.

Larry Mulligan was Big Tim's half brother. Can't figure out who Hicks is. Ignominious end, yes, but 25,000 turned out for his funeral. That's after his body went unrecognized for two weeks and he nearly ended up in potter's field. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Sullivan

Photo is dated 7-17-1913.

Nice work Wystan. Almost missed it inverted on the right edge.

Mona, I have trouble reading the dates, but once someone like Wystan has found a date on the plate negative, then we can do a search of the New York Times to find out more. If we go to the advanced search funtion of the NYT archive, and knowing that Tim Sullivan is the most well known person in this group, let's search of "Tim Sullivan" from July 1, 1913 to July 31, 1913: query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=... Then scan the headlines and dates together, and we see a headline "Big Tim Sullivan Returns Imroved; Presence of Politician on Imperator a Secret Until Ship Reaches ..." and dated July 17, 1913. Usually, we look for an article dated the day after the date on the negative, but there is no article for July 18, 1913 in this search. So let's try the one on July 17, 1913: query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9904E5DD163DE633A... and here: query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9904E... Neither of these articels exactly correlates with the date on the plate identified by Wystan, but we get a good idea of the fact that a sick Big Tim is back in town.

Any chance it might be this other Tim Sullivan? This looks to be Mott Street in front of old St. Patrick's.

This is the funeral of "Big" Tim Sullivan, on September 15, 1913. LOC -- "Bowery" should be capitalized.

Wystan, I think the funeral was on September 15, reported in NYT of Sept. 16. query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C03E2D8123FE633A... "CLASS LINES VANISH AT SULLIVAN BURIAL; Judges and Senators Mix with Thieves and Gangsters for Last Tribute to Dead Leader."

@swang, Thank you; your evidence is incontrovertible.

Everyone, Thanks for the detective work on this image and the others of the funeral of 'Big Tim' Sullivan. We will update this record as well as the other related images to reflect the details.

12/24/1909 - see "East Side Turns Out to Bury 'Little Tim'", 12/25/1909 New York Times. Sullivan was a popular Tammany operative and gangster.

The hearse in the cited newspaper account has a rounded front, while this one has a sqare front. Might this instead be the funeral of "Big Tim" Sullivan, who died on Aug 31, 1913?

Yes, this is the funeral of BIG Tim, on September 15, 1913 -- not LITTLE Tim, who died in 1909. Big Tim's body was unidentified in the morgue for two weeks after its discovery on railroad tracks.

jimflanny and Wystan, Thanks for the info on this image and the others of the funeral of 'Big Tim' Sullivan. We will update this record as well as the other related images to reflect the details.