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Eviction of Michael Connell, Moyasta, Co.Clare

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  • Paddy Waldron said:
    The Vandeleur evictions took place between 18 and 30 July 1888. Mr. French, a photographer working for Lawrence, was present at the eviction of Matthias McGrath in Moyasta on 26 July and at some of the other evictions. See `The Vandeleur Evictions in Kilrush 1888: The Plan of Campaign' by Noel J. Mulqueen (1988) and `The Vandeleur evictions, Kilrush 1888', by Ignatius Murphy in The Other Clare, Volume 4 (April 1980), 37-41.
  • Marine Attack Squadron ( VMA ) 225 said:
    My Grandmother's Family ( Liddane ) were evicted from their farm in Rehy, Co. Clare in the closing days of the 19th Century. Rehy is not far from Moyasta. The family scattered to The UK; The USA; and New Zealand. The youngest son, Dennis Liddane, was killed in France on Oct. 10, 1918 about a month before the end of World War 1. He was fighting for the American Army. I don't think he was even an American Citizen. Dennis is buried at the Meuse Argonne American Cemetery in France. So sad. The family never recovered from the death of the last born child.
  • Marine Attack Squadron ( VMA ) 225 said:
    Link below story of Relatives from Irelad and the UK visiting the grave of Dennis Liddane in France. www.clarechampion.ie/index.php?option=com_content&vie...
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Marine Attack Squadron ( VMA ) 225 As you say, "so sad", especially to be killed so close to the end of WWI. Thanks for all of the above information, and the Clare Champion article is lovely....
  • Marine Attack Squadron ( VMA ) 225 said:
    A more recent article from the Clare Champion. The name Linnane should be Liddane. In Sept. 2011, I was able to get approval from the US Army for the Purple Heart and two WW 1 Victory Medals for Dennis Liddane. The US Army will not be sending the Medals to me in NY til the Summer of 2012. I will be taking the Medals back to County Clare in 2013. I intend to give these Medals to the people of County Clare. The link to the Clare Champion is below. www.clarechampion.ie/index.php?option=com_content&vie...

Group gathered outside the house of Mary O'Dea, Tullycrine, Co.Clare following an eviction

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  • beachcomber australia said:
    Dated Monday 30 July 1888. Mary O'Dea's house was the first of three O'Dea households evicted; the second (a sub-tenant) was in error. Vividly described at trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/169707904 , including ...
    ... The house of Mary O'Dea was the next that was visited. It too. had the doors, windows, and furniture completely removed, and inside, when the sheriff, police, and emergencymen entered the sight was pitiable enough. A turf fire was burning in the big open grate. Beside it sat, or rather crouched, an old woman; the tenant and her daughter stood at her side. Inspector Hill tells the woman to go out, and the daughter replies, "We will only go when we are put out." Mr. Hill said, "You really will have to go, see," and was about to further persuade her when the sheriff stepped forward, and, putting his hand on the old woman, said -- "Come, out with you." Mrs. O'Dea answered, "Yes, I'll go, God help me, but 'tis you who put me out." Mother and daughter then left the house. Quite close stands the cabin of a widow of the same name, Mary O'Dea. It was stated by the under-agent that she was a sub-tenant of the woman last evicted ... ...
  • Sharon Corbet said:
    Clare Library doesn't know which house this, but suggested Tullycrine for the location.
  • O Mac said:
    I know from the other Tulycrine/Tullycreen photos that W.L was refering to the DED rather than the townland of which there are five. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Tullycreen/ There is this other ODea eviction scene-- not yet digitised-- but in the Clare Library-- that was taken in the Townland of Knockaderreen. There is a mention in the C.L of the bailiff going to the wrong O Dea on the day. Not the above I hope. The other ODea house. for which the census returns tally www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03/23547319296/in/datepos...
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Sharon Corbet O Mac If this is the Mary O'Dea house, it should be fairly close to John Flanagan's, which was visited immediately before, according to the newspaper report. And then they went to the wrong Mary O'Dea ("sub-tenant"), and then the widow Johanna O'Dea ("the last house ..."). Common sense says that the forces would not have zig-zagged all over the countryside, But then I am flummoxed by the two newspaper reports inconsistencies about Thomas Bermingham. The one says it happened on 30 July; the other on 31. It may well be that the various Australian newspapers lost some of the fine detail in the editor's rush to tell a good yarn, or at least condensed the action. They would have been reprinting reports from actual newspapers and magazines via ship (hence the six week delay in publication) rather than telegraphic short messages. Has anyone been able to find the original of these reports, probably in the Daily News (Dublin?London), the Nation or the Freeman ? There should be more detail and accuracy included.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    This Clare Library page - www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/fam_... - has terrific background information (should anyone be looking for it), including this about the sequence of events ...
    ... The McGrath eviction [Thursday 26/7/1888 - a photographer turned up - Robert French?] was the one which got most attention and in retrospect, it can be seen with its accompanying tragedy, to have put immense pressure on the landlord. There were two further days of evictions with Mr. French, the photographer, present on both days. On Monday 30th July Patrick Carrig, Thomas Considine, John Flanagan, the Widow O'Dea and Johanna O'Dea from the Tullycrine area were evicted, and a Mrs.O'Dea had her door burst in with a sledge before the evictors realised they had come to the wrong house. On the following day the procession again moved in the Kilkee direction and evicted John Connell, Thomas Bermingham and Thomas Higgins. Thomas Higgins was the last person to be put out of his house and holding in the Vandeleur Evictions of the summer of 1888. ...

Eviction scene (Battering Ram)

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  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    The following attempts to pull together all details of this series of Eviction Photos - your comments on same are very welcome. L_ROY_1760 Digitised------No On Flickr------No Zoomable------No Catalogue Title------Irish Life: Eviction Scenes: Evictions Corrected Title------No Change Notes------None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1761 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------No. We can request if needed Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Irish Life: On the Road for Eviction Corrected Title------No Change Notes------None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1762 Digitised------No On Flickr------No Zoomable------No Catalogue Title------Irish Life: Eviction Scenes: Evictions. Eviction party arriving at house of John Flanagan, Tullycrine. Corrected Title------No Change Notes------None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1763 Digitised------No On Flickr------ Zoomable------No Catalogue Title------Eviction scene, The Council Corrected Title------No Change Notes------None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1764 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Eviction of Michael Connell, Moyasta, Co.Clare Corrected Title------Eviction of Unknown Connell, Moyasta, Co Clare (Could be John, Michael or Patrick?? Notes------"The first tenant to be evicted was Patrick Connell. A turf fire lighted on the road somewhat retarded the progress of the Cavalry and the battering ram, and it had to be extinguished before they could advance. Connell's house -- an old and miserable thatched cottage situated on the banks of the Shannon -- was but feebly barricaded, and the doors and windows were only stuffed with bushes. An entrance was soon made through one of the windows, and then Connell came out and was placed under temporary arrest. The house, not being in a fit condition for a caretaker, was closed and deserted. A short march along the river bank took the sheriff and his men to the premises of Mr. Bermingham" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1765 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Group gathered outside the house of Mary O'Dea, Tullycrine, Co.Clare following an eviction Corrected Title------Not Sure Notes------This Map may help understand the probable movement of the Evictors . [https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03/23406107524/] .. The McGrath eviction [Thursday 26/7/1888 - a photographer turned up - Robert French?] was the one which got most attention and in retrospect, it can be seen with its accompanying tragedy, to have put immense pressure on the landlord. There were two further days of evictions with Mr. French, the photographer, present on both days. On Monday 30th July Patrick Carrig, Thomas Considine, John Flanagan, the Widow O'Dea and Johanna O'Dea from the Tullycrine area were evicted, and a Mrs.O'Dea had her door burst in with a sledge before the evictors realised they had come to the wrong house. On the following day the procession again moved in the Kilkee direction and evicted John Connell, Thomas Bermingham and Thomas Higgins. Thomas Higgins was the last person to be put out of his house and holding in the Vandeleur Evictions of the summer of 1888. ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1766 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------On the road for eviction Corrected Title------None Notes------"Same place.... L_ROY_1761 and L_ROY_1768 They were taken at Tullycrine/Tullycreen on the Ennis/Kilrush Road " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1767 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Michael Connell, Moyasta, Co.Clare after eviction Corrected Title------Thomas Considines in Tullycrine. 30 July 1888. According to Clare Library Notes------"Same place as L_ROY_1761 and L_ROY_1768 They were taken at Tullycrine/Tullycreen on the Ennis/Kilrush Road. Considine's house was the second visited on Monday 30/7/1888, across the road from Pat Carrig (see O Mac's first photo above). Vividly described at trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/169707904 , including ... ... The forces then passed to a miserable looking cottage on the roadside, the holding of Thomas Considine. There was an appearance of some slight effort to barricade this house. The door and windows were filled with thick branches of thorn. The sheriff having demanded possession, Col. Turner called on those within to come out quietly, but no response was given save a dish of hot water and meal, which, however, did no harm to anyone. Colonel Turner said, ""Go on; we don't mind that. You had better come out quietly."" District-Inspector Hill called out— ""We are going to knock down the house, and you had better come out."" There being no sign of this request being complied with, the ram was brought up and an emergencyman, who got a small dose of hot water, meanwhile kept guard outside the door with a square shield to place the ram workers under shelter. Mr. Hill called out, ""the battering-ram is going to work, so look out."" The ram was then, with the usual cry from the ""boss,"" put in motion, and it dashed through the slight impediment of the bushes and soon drove them to one side. They were thrust forward again, however. When the sticks and brambles where[sic] disposed of District Inspector Hill and the sheriff, both armed with shields, and a couple of policeman rushed in, and three young boys and two girls, who looked perfectly unconcerned, were brought out. The girls were sent away and the boys detained in custody. The extent of this holding, I should mention, was thirteen acres, and the rent £9, non-judicial. The tenant owed three and a half years to March last. He told me it had been raised from £1, and that 15s. had been put on his valuation. The women around gave cheers for the Plan of Campaign. The agent, addressing the tenant, said, ""You could settle now for £9."" The tenant's wife replied, ""We would not give you twopence-halfpenny now; you have turned us and our thirteen children out on the road, and see what comfort it will bring you."" The March was then continued to the holding of John Flanagan at some little distance. ... ..." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1768 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Mathias Magrath's house, Moyasta, Co.Clare with the Battering Ram in front Corrected Title------Thomas Considine's house in Tullycrine, according to Clare Library. Notes------"Same House as .... L_ROY_1767 They were taken at Tullycrine/Tullycreen on the Ennis/Kilrush Road " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1769 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------T.Birmingham's house, Moyasta, Co.Clare with Battering Ram and soldiers outside Corrected Title------ Notes------"Same House as .... L_ROY_1771 " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1770 Digitised------No On Flickr------No Zoomable------NO Catalogue Title------Irish Life: Eviction Scenes: Battering Ram Corrected Title------ Notes------None -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1771 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Battering Ram "Back with them, away with them Corrected Title------ Notes------"Same house as L_ROY 1769 L_ROY 1772 L_ROY1773 and L_ROY_1774 The discussion on today's image covered so much that it's hard to summarise - We learned that it was taken near Moyasta in Clare in 1888, probably at the home of a tenant of the Vandeleur Estate named Thomas Bermingham. While there's so much more to say about it, for now we'll add the explanation, as provided John Spooner, of the image's title (from Freeman's Journal report July 1888) The battering ram is no stranger to Irish evictions [...] from the centre hangs a chain which works a huge beam with an iron ferrule, and moved by ropes pulled by 17 or 18 Emergency-men [...] they hammered and hammered with but little result. The captain of the Emergency troop, at each swing of the ram, cried out, ""Back, away with them. Back, away with them."" Just as sailors cry ""Heave ho."" The people in the foreground may be identified in the following extract. More about ""Mr and Mrs Tourist"" - this interesting discussion and photos (via 'The Gael' of 1901) on the Clare Library Forum - My great grandfather, Major E. J. O'Shaughnessy, his wife Margaretta Dunn O'Shaughnessy, and her sister Ellen Dunn, were witnesses to the evictions on the Vandeleur Estate in July 1888. My great grandfather wrote of his observations and opinions to friends and associates in New York City, and very likely to his family in Montreal, Canada. We know of three publications, two in New York City in 1889, subsequently reprinted in a Montreal newspaper, and the photo contribution to an article on Clare featured in the American magazine The Gael in 1901. We know that my great grandfather had several photos of the evictions in his personal collection. He did not take these photos and gives credit to a professional Limerick photographer Thomas O'Connor. Though my great grandfather's collection of photos is no longer in the family's possession, I suspect these were but copies, and that the originals still exist in a private collection. I also suspect that my great grandfather is to be photo in the background in one of the photos. He was keen to be recorded at such a historical and at the same time, to him, shocking, event. Of further interest to some, perhaps, is that my great father was not merely a tourist, but also an activist, a member of the New York City Land League organizations, a fund raiser for the Irish Parliamentary Fund, a former Canadian Fenian, he always said, and almost certainly a Clan na Gael member at the time of his visit to Clare. " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1772 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------The Battering Ram has done its work Corrected Title------ Notes------"Same House as .... L_ROY_1771 L_ROY 1769 L_ROY1773 and L_ROY_1774 Some notes from Irish Times Article the previous week or so. Preparations for Evictions on a Large Scale. 100 Men of the Berkshire Regiment. Battering Ram for use by the Evictors has been forwarded to Captain Croker Sheriff of the County. 100 Tenants under notice of Eviction. Arrears amount to £60,000. All owe at least 3 years rent some 12 years. Common People and places identified " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1773 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Eviction scene "Ready for hot water" Corrected Title------ Notes------"Same House as .... L_ROY_1771 L_ROY 1769 L_ROY1772 and L_ROY_1774 Back of Thomas Bermingham's house on the banks of the river Shannon. NB reversed shrubbery in the chimney, compared with " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1774 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Eviction scene, Ireland Corrected Title------ Notes------"Same House as .... L_ROY_1771 L_ROY 1769 L_ROY1772 and L_ROY_1773 Back of Thomas Bermingham's house on the banks of the river Shannon. " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1775 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Eviction scene at the house of John Connell, Moyasta, Co.Clare Corrected Title------ Notes------"Same House as .... L_ROY_1764 John Connell Could be correct description for this house - see notes sbove on L_ROY_1764" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1776 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Eviction scene, Ireland Corrected Title------ Notes------It looks to me that this is in the same area as the previous 4 photos. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1777 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------T.Birmingham's house, Moyasta, Co.Clare Corrected Title------Not Sure - BUT NOT T. Birmingham's House Notes------It looks to me that this is in the same area as the previous 4 photos. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_ROY_1779 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Eviction scene (Battering Ram) Corrected Title------ Notes------This is I think the same house in process of demolition as L_CAB_04918 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L_CAB_04918 Digitised------Yes On Flickr------ Zoomable------Yes Catalogue Title------Mathias Magrath's house, Moyasta, Co.Clare after destruction by the Battering Ram Corrected Title------ Notes------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  • beachcomber australia said:
    ED: Anyone have an idea which house this was? The boarded-up windows are different ... Perhaps it is Mathias / Patrick McGrath's house - see the two distinctive thick horizontal ropes holding the thatch on ...
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Full vivid description of the McGrath eviction - trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/115459777
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    beachcomber australia O Mac moccasinlanding John Floyd Sharon Corbet DannyM8 Anne McGinley blokes 2012 Melinda Young Stuart guliolopez Swordscookie Niall McAuley John Spooner derangedlemur Ladies and Gentlemen, I have attempted to bring some context to the "Eviction Photos" in my previous post. Please have a look and advise me of any omissions or errors. I have still to Map some of the photos and we all need to agree on the exact dates. As always your help and support is greatly appreciated, The Other Mary.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Particular thanks to www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia/ www.flickr.com/photos/129555378@N07/ www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03/ www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06/ Thanks for your work already over the holiday period, have a virtual glass of something nice on me tonight!!!