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Porte & Hallett on "America" (LOC)

  • Dave Miller said:
    John Cyril Porte, a retired Briish aviator, and George Hallett, were pilot and co-pilot on a project to attempt a non-stop Atlantic crossing by air. They were to fly the Rodman Wanamaker airship, America, from Newfoundland to Ireland in the summer of 1914. The original plan had been to fly in June, but problems with the plane's design led to postponement well into July. Porte insisted on flying at night during the full moon so that he could navigate by the stars. By the time the America was ready to fly, the next avialable date that met Porte's criteria was in August 1914. Unfortunately, the outbreak of The Great War that month caused the ocean crossing to be cancelled.
  • Wystan said:
    Other Bain/LOC photos of the flying boat, "America": and another Curtiss boatplane:
  • Richard Norton said:
    I started an entry for Hallett: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Eustace_Amyot_Hallett
  • Kristi (LOC P&P) said:
    puzzlemaster, Wystan and Richard Arthur Norton, Thanks to all for both bringing more information to these photographs as well as gathering related images. We will be adding new information to quite a few photographs related to the 'America' when we update our records.

Porte -- Hallett -- Curtiss -- Miss Masson -- at launch of "America" (LOC)

  • TVL1970 said:
    As per Glenn Curtiss - Pioneer of Flight (1991), by Cecil R. Roseberry, this photo depicts the christening and launching of the Curtiss Model H Flying Boat "America" on June 22, 1914 in Hammondsport, New York, just adjacent to Keuka Lake. From left to right, aviators John Cyril Porte, George E.A. Hallett, and (builder) Glenn Curtiss stand below 16-year old Miss Katherine Masson. Miss Masson, the daughter of Leon Masson, an official with the Pleasant Valley Wine Company (and granddaughter of Jules Masson), was chosen to christen the America with a bottle of champagne (which proved to be a fitful task). The aircraft's construction by Glenn Curtiss was commissioned by Rodman Wanamaker, the son of department store founder John Wanamaker, in order to compete for the ₤10,000 prize offered by the Daily Mail newspaper for the first non-stop aerial crossing of the Atlantic Ocean. The Curtiss Model H-1 flying boat was Initially known as the "Rodman Wanamaker Transatlantic Flyer," but the name "America" was chosen for the aircraft by Wanamaker. Ultimately, the outbreak of the the First World War would intercede and "America" would never make its planned transatlantic flight. Here's a link to British Pathe newsreel film of the assembly and christening of the America, along with footage of a stubborn bottle of champagne. www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=80471 Another Bain photo of the trio and Miss Masson:
  • Wystan said:
    Other Bain/LOC photos of the flying boat, "America": and another Curtiss flying boat:
  • Kristi (LOC P&P) said:
    TVL1970: Thank you so much for the extremely detailed information, complete with source citation. And that video was a treat to watch! Quite the stubborn bottle of champagne, indeed. It's great to see moving footage to go along with these still images. We will add details to all of the photographs related to the 'America' using the facts you've provided. Thanks again!

Curtiss F

  • TVL1970 said:
    This actually appears to be Keuka Lake, New York.
  • Batman_60 said:



    I took the above photos on September 15, 2012 at the Seaplane Homecoming in Hammondsport, NY, of the Curtiss "Model E" replica N1913E, built and flown by the Glenn Curtiss Museum.

    As with all early Curtiss models, there is confusion (at least by this humble enthusiast) as to which flying boat this replica is designed to emulate. The Putnam volume by Peter M. Bowers mentions an Army No. 15, one of a number of experimental flying boats flown c. 1912 and referred to as the "E-Boat", which is what the Curtiss Museum calls their flying replica, but there is no mention of a "Model E" flying boat as such.

    There was the Curtiss "A-2", the Navy's second airplane, which was delivered as a landplane in 1911, converted to a float seaplane in June 1912, and in October 1912 modified with a boat-like enclosure over the pilots and float, effectively becoming what some sources refer to as the "Navy's first flying boat". This machine later got retractable wheels and was called the "OWL" (Over Water and Land). In October 1913 the Navy changed its designation to "E-1", followed by a further change to "AX-1". But this aircraft had an open structure supporting the tail, and looked nothing like the replica.

    The San Diego Air and Space Museum's Flickr site has two images of a similar aircraft which it refers to as "Model E : #2 Flying Boat - 1912, 1st successful flight – Flying Fish".



    While sources agree that the Curtiss Flying Boat #2 "Flying Fish", the first to actually leave the water and fly, was the world's first successful flying boat, it is clearly different from the replica, at least in the shape of the tail.

    The replica's registration is N1913E, indicating a 1913 model, by which time Curtiss was building the Model F, of which many variants were constructed for several years. Here are two Model Fs in 1916 at a Curtiss flight school in Newport News. The similarity to the Museum's flying replica is noteworthy.


    So my guess is that the N1913E, built in 1998, is a composite design containing features of the "Army No. 14 E-boat", the "Flying Boat #2 - Flying Fish", and the 1913 Model F.

    Bowers also makes reference to the "erroneous" use of the term "E-Boat" when referring to the 1913 Model F. Without further information I would never go as far as accusing the Museum or the builders of this amazing machine of an error, but the above gives the reader some idea as to the complexity and ambiguity of identifying century old products from such a prolific genius as Glenn Curtiss.

    Information appreciated - if anyone has a more accurate grasp of the situation, please comment!

    The replica also features standard three axis controls as opposed to the sliding seat aileron control/steering wheel rudder used in the early Curtiss boats, as no pilot alive would be able to re-train his or her muscle memory to safely fly the earlier fomat. It was launched into the lake on a beaching trolley on a railroad-like track. The pilot first flew the display flight's course in a Cessna 180 floatplane to determine if it was safe to fly. When the crowd finally got to see the old Curtiss fly it performed very far away from the park where the spectators were, and where all the other seaplanes present were operating all day. He flew two takeoffs, distant circuits, and landings, landing downwind both times. My photos are of the second pass. It was rumored that this was the last time it was to fly.
  • Stig Jarlevik said:
    Batman is very much correct when he speaks of "the Curtiss confusion" and the reason is Curtiss or perhaps rather the factory itself, which used the same type letters over and over again. For intance when the US Navy in 1911 bought two model E, they were 1911 model E and were not flying boats but float planes. In 1912 Curtiss again used the letter as 1912 model E which was a flying boat and the prototype is what we see here. The 1912 model E was modified with a new tail (adapted on the model F) and extended wing tips and creating what can be called the 1912/13 model E. The US Navy C-1 should belong here I believe. Then we have the 1913 model E which in the past have been confused with the 1913 model F (the differences are minute) and I think that the replica N1913E in fact is a 1913 model E as claimed. No proof on my part, but then again I am not much for building anything.... The problem is also that in details, one can have two 1913 model E photos and not even those two look exactly the same. Curtiss and his mechanics constantly tinkered with modifications back and forth and in the end I wonder if even they knew exactly what it was..... :-) Stig