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From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernestine_Schumann-Heink "During World War I, Schumann-Heink supported the United States and its armed forces. She entertained the troops and raised money to help wounded veterans. She toured the United States raising money for the war effort, although she had relatives fighting on both sides of the war – including her sons August Heink, a merchant sailor who had been impressed into the German submarine service, son Walter Schumann, Henry Heink and George Washington Schumann, all in the United States Navy."

From www.balboaparkhistory.net/glimpses/scheink.htm "In February 1906 she returned to Germany where she succeeded in getting six of her eight children out of the country. August, a merchant seaman, and Charlotte, the wife of Doctor Grief in Leipzig, remained behind. According to German law, Schumann-Heink, by marrying a foreigner, had forfeited her property in Germany. Also, her boys were required to serve in the army before they could leave the country. The German courts decided the boys and daughter Marie could accompany her to America and that she could retain one-third of the money in Germany as she, rather than her deceased husband, had earned it. Her home in Germany was confiscated, and she had to buy it back. " Maybe this is her daughter Marie, born in 1896. Although Marie was married in 1915 (to Hubert Guy of San Diego) according to the same resource.

The evening world., November 05, 1917, Final Edition, Page 25, col. 1. chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030193/1917-11-05/ed-... indicates that her only recital in New York "this season" was at Carnegie Hall the previous Saturday, November 3. One of her sons, a sailor, was in the audience. chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=&a... suggests that she had been on a whistle-stop tour visiting her soldier sons and singing at benefits. Her pianist was Edith Evans and a soprano, Florence French, also performed. So maybe the younger woman is one of them.

Thank you swanq for the additional information about Schumann-Heink. Wish we could identify the other woman in the stylish white outfit. Thanks for suggesting some possible candidates!

There is something of the Lee Miller about her.

There is an announcement in the Irish Independent of Monday October 15th: MAGNER AND SMYTH—October 9, 1917, at Tramore, by the Rev. T. O'Brien, C.C., Passage-West,- William J. Magner, eldest son of John Magner, Clonmel, to Catherine (Kitty) Smyth, daughter of Mr. Edmund Smyth, Cattle Dealer, Clonmel So it may be William Magner, the original founder of Magners/Bulmers.

Sharon Corbet *shaking fist at you* Was just about to contribute exactly the same thing! I'll beat you next time... :)

Spot the differences! - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000593236 The mother-in-law (Mrs Smyth?) looks happier in the other photo.

According to GRO, marriage took place at Tramore RC Church. Celebrant was Thomas O'Brien C.C. Witnesses were John Francis Magner and Mary J Smyth. William J's address was given as Mitchel Street Clonmel. Occupation Merchant.

if John Magner Snr was c.70 in this pic, it would tally with a subsequent Death record in 1926, where he was described as Hotel Proprietor aged 79

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