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Bob Mockler was the Dublin Captain on the day. I was at Croke Park yesterday - still very disappointed by the result.

Don't forget. EDIT Found this about the above photo. Michael Collins addresses the Kilkenny team before the Leinster Final against Dublin, Sept 1921. From left: Paddy Donoghue(Dicksboro), Mattie Power(Dicksboro), Dick Grace(Tullaroan), Michael Joyce(Callan), Martin Egan(Threecastles), Bill Kenny(Lisdowney), Jack Holohan(from Johnstown, played with Tullaroan), Michael Collins and Harry Boland. Collins and Boland(Chairman, Dublin County Board and Sinn Féin TD for Roscommon), though great friends, found themselves on opposite sides in the Civil War which would claim both of their lives within a year. See www.dicksborogaa.com/paddy-odonoghue.php

Mockler Played for Tipperary in his early career and Dublin later on. Note it was a Seventeen man game then!!!. We have come across Mr Mockler before. Robert "Bob" Mockler (born 1885) was an Irish hurler who played as a midfielder for the Tipperary and Dublin senior teams from 1909 until 1924. Mockler made his first appearance for the Tipperary team during the 1908 championship and was a regular member of the starting seventeen for the next few seasons. He subsequently enjoyed a decade long career with Dublin before retiring from the game after the 1924 championship. During that time he won three All-Ireland medals, five Leinster medals and one Munster medal.[1] Mockler captained Dublin to the All-Ireland title in 1920. Mockler began his club career with Horse and Jockey before later winning six county championship medals with Faughs in Dublin from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Mockler

DannyM8 Hadn't forgotten, just really liked this one. Saw blurry photo of Bob Mockler somewhere, and I've put a note on who I think he might be in the shot - absolutely willing to be corrected!

I think that is Bob to the Right of Collins see and

The cap badge seems to be a rampant lion on a crossed ribbon.

London Scottish, possibly. Kilt, badge and sporran all seem to match. That may be true for many regiments though.

Is catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000281336 the same guy and is there any more detail in it?

wrt London Scottish: The 1st battalion served in Ireland between October 1919 and January 1920. 2nd battalion in 1921.

derangedlemur No, BEA33 is another chap altogether.

www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=100549202 same name buried in Canada 1982 (90) years. Birth: 1892 Death: 1982 Family links: Spouse: May Butler Gore-Hickman (1895 - 1976)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Mountain View Cemetery Lethbridge Lethbridge Census Division Alberta, Canada Created by: Bear Hugs Record added: Nov 11, 2012 Find A Grave Memorial# 100549202

Lieutenant Thomas O'Brien GORE-HICKMAN The Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Date: 1914-1919; 1936. From discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/C10981...

From "Raids and Rallies" (Ernie O'Malley):

(1921) "Dr Finegan was referring to five officers of the Leitrim brigade - a portion or a column under Seán Connolly from the Longford Brigade - who had been killed by the British on 11 March at Selton Hill, County Leitrim after information of their presence had been given to Thomas Gore-Hickman, the District Inspector of the RIC in Mohill

From: "Rising out: Seán Connolly of Longford (1890-1921)" (Ernie O'Malley, Cormac K. H. O'Malley)

the lorry was the oridinary passing lorry of troops, he went up towards it for it had halted outside of McCullough's gate. A police officer, Thomas Gore-Hickman, the RIC District Inspector in Mohill, got out of a car which was behind the soldiers and walked over to Flynn: 'Did you see any armed men around here', he asked? 'No, I didn't, I was at school all day'...

Here is young Thomas at home in Clare in 1901's census You can see that his Uncle Thomas is an O'Brien. In the Landed Estates Database, we have the Hickman family of Kilmore House, and a Gore connection: Francis William Gore of Tyredagh assumed the surname of Hickman in 1878. Why? Because: In 1824, Mary Browne, daughter of Edmond and Anne Browne, married Francis Gore and their descendants eventually inherited the Hickman estate by the will of Anne’s brother, Poole Hickman, who died in 1842. He was succeeded by his sister, Letitia Hickman, who held an estate comprised of at least nine townlands in the parishes of Killimer and Kilmurry at the time of Griffith’s Valuation. So Francis Gore married into the Hickman family, and when Francis inherited the Hickman lands, he assumed the name Hickman (a condition of the will, maybe?), and gave just that name in the census of 1901 and 1911 . Thomas evidently felt he should restore the Gore name, as well as double-barrelling with his mothers surname [Edit:]Francis's father was named Francis Gore too, so I'm not sure which of them inherited/changed his name...

Hickman’s eldest son Thomas had joined the Auxialiaries and gained a notorious reputation in the Longford / Roscommon area. In response to the burning of the family homes and businesses of known I.R.A. members by the R.I.C., the I.R.A. had begun arson attacks on the family homes of men who had joined the Black & Tans and the Auxiliaries in both Britain and Ireland. District Inspector Thomas Hickman a member of the R.I.C. Auxiliary Division There are a number of possible motives why Kilmore was burnt; Hickman’s unpopularity, jealousy of Behan as cited by the R.I.C., the use of the house by the British Army, or his son’s membership of the Auxiliaries. On 5 July 1921, Hazelwood House in Quin, another property belonging to Hickman, was burned down by the I.R.A. Hazelwood and its contents were valued at one hundred thousand pounds. Your picture is posted here about half way down. www.warofindependence.info/?page_id=225

Charles Stewart Henry Vane-Tempest-Stewart, 7th Marquess of Londonderry, KG, MVO, PC, PC (Ire) (13 May 1878 – 10 February 1949), styled Lord Stewart until 1884 and Viscount Castlereagh between 1884 and 1915, was an Anglo-Irish peer known for his political career in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and, later, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. He is best remembered for his tenure as Secretary of State for Air in the 1930s and for his links with the Appeasement policy towards Nazi Germany. From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_M...

His grand daughter Lady Annabel Goldsmith (formerly Birley, née Vane-Tempest-Stewart; born 11 June 1934) is an English socialite and the eponym for a celebrated London nightclub of the late 20th century, Annabel's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Annabel_Goldsmith

After the 1935 General Election Baldwin took the oppotunity to sack him. The sense of hurt Londonderry felt at this, and of accusations that he had misled Baldwin about the strength Nazi Germany's air force, led him to seek to clear his reputation as a 'warmonger' by engaging in amateur diplomacy. This involved visits to senior Nazis in Germany, and briefings with government officials in London. His high profile promotion of 'Anglo-German' friendship, in the end, marked him with a far greater slur than that which had led him to engage in appeasement in the first place. After playing a marginal role in the overthrow of Neville Chamberlain in 1940, he failed to win any favour from his cousin, Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Without office he produced his memoirs, Wings of Destiny (1943), a relatively short book that was considerably censored by his former colleagues. state.chemistrydaily.com/chemistry/Charles_Vane-Tempest-S...

Lord Londonderry also had an illegitimate daughter with actress Fannie Ward, named Dorothé Mabel Lewis. She first married, in 1918, a nephew of mining magnate Barney Barnato, Capt. Jack Barnato, who died of pneumonia shortly after their wedding. Her second husband, whom she married in 1922, was Terence Plunket, 6th Baron Plunket, and with him she had three sons: Patrick Plunket, 7th Baron Plunket, Robin Plunket, 8th Baron Plunket, and the Hon Shaun Plunket. Lord and Lady Plunket were killed in an airplane crash in California in 1938. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_M...

Having suffered a stroke after a gliding accident a few years after the end of the war, Lord Londonderry died on 10 February 1949 at Mount Stewart, County Down, aged 70. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_M...