grenadierguards

I believe that there is a typographical error in the title. Isn't it Grenadier, instead of Grenaudier?

only1tanuki: We fixed the spelling of "Grenadier" in the title, to match the caption scratched into the negative. The question remains of whether the uniform and insignia belong to a Grenadier.

Drum Majors of the Grenadier Guards, both then and now, wore white leggings. The ensignia on his cross belt is also not that of the Grenadiers. It is a drum majors uniform of one of the Guards regiments but I am not sure it is the Grenadiers.

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The Drum Major is wearing State Dress minus the white spatterdash gaiters that should in principle go with it. He is in fact from the Scots Guards, as the print is just clear enough to make out the thistle in the centre of the star on the baldric or cross belt. Although the relevant part of the monogram is obscured, I'd say that the photograph was taken either before or shortly after the death of Queen Victoria in 1901, as the baldric bears the "Queen's crown". The architecture in the background suggests the Tower of London as a possible location.

The officer at the front was the Bandmaster. When on the march his position is taken by the Drum Major and the Bandmaster marched within the ranks. The tunics of the bandsmen had gold braid across the chest, cuffs and skirt (rear) until WWII, then the braid dissappeared from the bandsmen's tunics, except for the Drum Major who still has the gold braided tunic.

Guards Bands did not have a Bandmaster in those days, the officer is officially termed Director of Music. These days the Guards Bands have a Bandmaster (WO1 rank) who is 2nd in command, plus a Director of Music, usually a Major, or in the case of the Senior Director of Music, Guards Division, Lt. Colonel.

Sorry GrenadierGuardsDmr but you are wrong. The officer in front of the band is a Director of Music,and state bands don't and never have had bandsmen. They are musicians. And despite the captions,the bearskin caps are not made from 'grizzly' bear but Canadian black bears.

What I think is interesting,and something i never noticed before,is that the musicians have one type of cuff and the NCOs have the one worn these days,the 'winged' cuff.

@kevinmorgan2012 Yes you are correct that, as an officer, the picture must show the Director of Music, (then) Major George Miller. My mistake. However they did have Bandmasters in those days. All, or nearly all, the Directors of Music passed through the NCO ranks as Bandmasters before being commissioned and appointed as Directors of Music. @timg2003 The 1952 publication "The King's Guards" by Major Henry Legge-Bourke refers to Foot Guards musicians as "bandsmen" so I'm fairly sure that was the term used in 1934. My understanding is that the term "Musician" was introduced when female musicians were accepted into the bands, and I believe that was the 1980's. HOWEVER I am always happy to have my knowledge expanded on these issues. Rgds.

Henry Richmund Inigo-Jones Born 17th December 1891 London. The 1901 census records him living at the family home Kelston Park, Bath.
www.imagesofengland.org.uk/Details/Default.aspx?id=399989 and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelston_Park
with his mother Elinor Margaret [b.1860 London], older sisters Alise [b.1885 London] and Maud [b.1890 London] and eleven staff. His father [who is Major-General Richmund Inogo-Jones] is not recorded as living at the house.
The 1911 census records him living at 17 Grosvenor Square, London with his grandmother Margaret Charteris [b.1835 Dublin, Ireland] along with, again, eleven domestic servants.
He joined the Scots Guards as a 2nd Lieutenant in 1912 and was promoted Lieutenant in 1913.
Died 14th September 1914 France. Left £2240 9s 5d to his mother Elinor Margaret Jones and Edmund Butler Charteris [half-brother?] His father predeceased him on 20th July 1914.

Lieutenant Henry Richmund Inigo Jones SCOTS GUARDS. Son of Major General Inigo Richmund Jones CB CVO (Late SCOTS GUARDS) (23 Sep 1848-20 July 1914) and his second wife Elinor Margaret Charteris. In 1901 his father would have been away commanding the Guards Brigade fighting in the Boer War. Grandson of Lieutenant Colonel Inigo William Jones JP DL 1st Dragoons of Kelston Park, Somerset, (b 1806-d 1878).

Lieutenant H R I Jones SCOTS GUARDS was killed in action on 14th September 1914, aged 22. On 14th August 1914 the 1st Battalion Scots Guards were part of 1st (Guards) Brigade in 1st Division of the BEF.//

You have to feel sorry for his mother, losing her husband and son both within a couple of months.

To those of you researching and finding out the personal histories of these people

THANKYOU.

The iinformtion I posted was culled from the 1901 census
County - Somerset
Parish - North Stoke
Enumeration District - 13
Page - 4
Alise is the second entry and it looks as though the transcription is correct, not a mistranscription of Alice.

Commonwealth Wargraves Commission has following details
Name: INIGO-JONES, HENRY RICHARD
Initials: H R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 14/09/1914
Additional information: Son of Maj. Gen. Inigo-Jones, C.B.,C.V.O., and Mrs. Elinor M. Inigo-Jones, of 10, South Audley St., London, W.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: LA FERTE-SOUS-JOUARRE MEMORIAL