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Cardinal James Gibbons (1834-1921), the second American to become a cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church; encouraged American Catholics to support the labor movement, saying "It is the right of laboring classes to protect themselves, and the duty of the whole people to find a remedy against avarice, oppression, and corruption." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gibbons

See hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/cph.3a47937 for an 1886 photo of the cardinal.

Thanks, penny, for the information about Cardinal Gibbons. I'd like to keep the discussion going. Do you have any idea what he might have been doing in Milwaukee?

According to the NYTimes, Gibbons attended a convention in Milwaukee in August 1913 when the American Federation of Catholic Societies met there, and he performed the formal opening ceremonies at St. John's Cathedral.

Here is a working link to the New York Times story of August 11, 1913: query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=940DEFDF123FE633A...

J. Murphy, I think, J for James. The word after 1905 may be CARDINAL.

Niall McAuley Have taken J under advisement and changed it above, thanks. And good call on Cardinal, I think.

Aha! J is for John: (from www.stpatrickscathedral.org.au/bells/a-history-of-the-bel...) John Murphy was a Coppersmith of 14 Thomas Street Dublin who established his business in 1837. In 1843 he branched-out into bell founding, casting a bell for the Roman Catholic church in Tuam in County Galway. In the years that followed Murphy cast many single bells and at least eight rings of bells. Many of Murphy’s bells were thinner in profile than bells cast by other founders and intended for ringing, but that did not prevent Murphy bells being awarded prizes at the Dublin and London Exhibitions and First Prize in 1900 at the Paris Exhibition. John Murphy, who had founded the business, died in 1875. His son, John J. Murphy, then ran the foundry until it eventually closed. John J. died in 1948. In 1885 Matthew O’Byrne, who ran a foundry in James Street in Dublin, persuaded James Gaskin to join him. Gaskin had been the bell-maker at Murphy’s. Thereafter the Murphy Bell Foundry declined. According to Fred Dukes the last dated bell traceable to Murphy’s was cast in 1900.

Suspended Carol, suspended! Bell casting was very skilled work. Witness the Liberty Bell in the US which was cast in one of the oldest foundries in the world in Whitechapel in London. The darned thing cracked and they mangled it trying to mend it over there. John Murphy was a brave man to take on that work.

"It's the way they toll them" as Frank Carson might have said. I saw him a few times in Blackpool where his family lives. RIP Frank.

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