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Thank you for postng this image. I have used with links back and acknowledgements to NA on my webpage about 'Guernica' here www.shapesoftime.net/pages/viewpage.asp?uniqid=12397 NA on Flickr Commons is another valuable step towards building a truly valuable public space for all to share and contribute.

He was the 11th Marquess of Queensbury (1896–1954). John Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry was the one who caused Oscar Wilde's terrible downfall. It is a terrible shame that the name Queensberry is forever connected with homophobia. I adore the spats (probably incorrect nomenclature for it).

Francis Archibald Kelhead Douglas was born 17 Jan 1896, son of Percy Sholto Douglas (10th Marquess of Queensberry) and Anna Maria (nee Walters). He had an older sister, Lady Dorothy, b. 1894, and a younger brother, Lord Cecil, b. 1898. His mother died 25 Apr 1917. He was Commissioned into the Black Watch in January 1915 at the age of 19, and was married to his first wife, (of three, by whom he had a total of 4 children), Irene Clarice Richards, in December 1917. It was his grandfather, John Sholto Douglas, (who died when Francis was aged 4), who was arrested when he was so unwisely sued for criminal libel by Oscar Wilde in 1895, over the 41-year-old Wilde's relationship with John's 25-year-old son Alfred, (Percy's brother, and uncle of Francis), who in 1902 married Olive Eleanor Custance. John Sholto Douglas as 9th Marquess is recalled as the man who formally endorsed the rules codified by J G Chambers for the sport of amateur boxing. These quickly became adopted across the United Kingdom as the Marquess of Queensberry Rules, and synonymous with fair play in sport.//

stunting shot

From Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Douglas,_11th_Marquess_of_Q... Francis Archibald Kelhead Douglas (17 Jan 1896-27 Apr 1954) was the 11th Marquess of Queensberry. He was a Scottish representative peer in the 1920s. His parents were Percy Sholto Douglas, 10th Marquess of Queensberry and Anna Maria Walters (1866-1917). He married his first wife, Irene Clarice Richards, on 4 December 1917. [Divorced 1925 according to www.thepeerage.com thepeerage.com/p2067.htm] His second wife was Cathleen Sabine Mann, daughter of portrait artist Harrington Mann(married 18 March 1926, divorced 1946). His third wife was Muriel Beatrice Margaret Rowe-Thornett (widow of Albert Sidney Gore-Chunn) whom he married in 1947 in Westminster. (www.ancestry.co.uk Marriage Indexes) National Probate Calendar records his death as 27 Apr 1954 at The Grand Hotel, Folkestone, Kent. Probate granted to his widow. Effects £2521 8s 3d.

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From CWGC website:
Second Lieutenant JAMES DOUGLAS HERBERT FARMER
Son of James Herbert and Edith Gertrude Farmer, of "Fairfield," Mundesley, Norfolk.
9th Bty. 41st Bde. Royal Field Artillery
Ypres (Menin Gate) memorial, panel 5 and 9

Probably killed during the First Battle of Ypres 19 Oct-22 Nov 1914. Between the actions at Gheluvelt, a German attack to break through between Hytschaete and Messines, and a final attempt to take Ypres from along the line of the Menin Road, by 1st November both British and German forces in this area had taken desperately high casualties and fought themselves to a point of exhaustion. 4th November 1914 is described as a day of menaces rather than attacks, nevertheless 2nd Division, of which XLI Arty Bde RFA was a part, was subjected to increasingly heavy German shelling.

9th Field Battery was a Regular RFA battery based in peacetime 1914 in Bordon, Hampshire - with 16 Field Battery and 17 Field Battery formed XLI Artillery Brigade which on 4 Nov 14 was commanded by Lt Col Stephen Lushington RA (born 1864 and educated at Eton). XLI Bde RFA arrived in France in August 1914, fought with distinction extracting 4th Guards Bde at Villers-Cotteret on 1 Sep 14 although 'under an infernal fire', and again supporting 2nd Bn Worcestershires at Polygon Wood at the end of October.//

Classic

James Douglas Herbert Farmer, a Gentleman Cadet at the Royal Military Academy, was Commissioned into the Royal Regiment of Artillery as a Second Lieutenant in the Regular Army on 13th July 1913. London Gazette 28747 of 19 Aug 1913.//

As well as appearing on the Roll of Honour in All Saints, Mundesley, there is a separate plaque commemorating the loss just inside the church door.


There is a picture of James on Norlink
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

The picture has what looks like a clipping attached,
“FARMER - Killed in action, on 4th November, Second Lieut. James Douglas Herbert Farmer, Royal Artillery, the dearly loved second son of James Herbert Farmer of “Fairfield”, Mundesley, Norfolk and grandson of the late James Farmer Esq. J P and the late Sir George Harris J.P. L.C.C, aged 21”
Underneath is a hand-written note - “Gazetted July 1913”.

James Douglas Herbert has an entry in De Ruvigny’s but not in the two volumes I have a copy of.

Working through the other names above, there are Medal Index Cards for

Frederick Spencer Herbert, initially Second Lieutenant than Lieutenant, 3rd Battalion attached 2nd Battalion, Norfolk Regiment before becoming a Lieutenant with the 17th Special Battalion , (which is a new unit on me and doesn’t appear in any of the normal lists).
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2...

Charles Robert Herbert, initially Second Lieutenant, 15th Hussars before becoming a Lieutenant in the 18th Hussars and attached to the Motor Machine Gun Section.
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2...

No obvious candidate for the Naval Officer either in the normal service or the Volunteer Reserve..

As we have a George Adderley Herbert on the 1911 census, he would be a prime candidate for the Honourable Artillery Company man. There is a George A H Farmer who was Private 12420 Honourable Artillery Company Infantry.
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2...