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Suffragette speaking from cart, London (LOC)

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  • Seuss. said:
    I don't think this is London. I don't see that cart traveling the 200 miles from Newton Abbot to London in the age of steam trains.

    Devon Live suggests that the woman speaking is local Suffragist Edith Splatt campaigning in Newton Abbot in 1908. This photo actually appears on the Edith Splatt wikipedia page but the speaker is identified as Mary Gawthorpe which seems more likely. The lady with the hat is identified as Nellie Martel


  • swanq said:
    Seuss.
    I agree that the photo is much more likely to be in or close to Newton Abbot. I have nothing more wrt identification of the women except that it seems plausible that the woman seated is Nellie Martel, who was born in Cornwall and would probably have reason to travel to the West Country to visit relations as well as fellow suffragists.
  • Jon (LOC P&P) said:
    swanq and Seuss., I agree it's not very likely the photo was taken in London, but since these are copy photos, Bain may have got them from a source in London, and not realized they were taken elsewhere. I'll suggest that we copy the text from the cart into the catalog record so Newton Abbot would come up in a search.

    As for the identifications, the woman on the right does look a lot like Mary Gawthorpe. It harder to determine if the other woman is Edith Splatt. I'll talk with the catalogers, we may be able to put a note that says they are "possibly" Splatt and Gawthorpe.
  • Seuss. said:
    In January 1908 there was a by-election for a seat in Newton Abbot that the Suffrage movement targeted. The WSPU opened offices there and many of the principal suffragists spoke on a regular basis. Sylvia Pankhurst's The Suffragist quoted the Daily Mail

    Miss Mary Gawthorpe, who usually has no difficulty in
    maintaining good-humoured relations with audiences of every class, was not only compelled to hear language from some of the Newton Abbot Liberal partisans that brought a flush to her face and tears into her eyes, but had to resist by
    force the efforts of one man to mount the waggon from which she and several other ladies were speaking. And the most pitiful part of the business was that the language and the conduct seemed to be regarded by their perpetrators as engaging little gallantries, appropriate to be offered to a lady


    page 183 ia800302.us.archive.org/6/items/suffragettehisto00pankuof...

    Nellie Martell was also definitely in Newton Abbot. TheLondon Museum notes that she was an official organizer for the WSPU there and provides a good photo of her. Following the election she and Emmeline Pankhurst were assaulted by angry Liberal supporters.
    LONDON, January 20. Riotous soenes followed the declaration of the Mid-Devon poll at Newton Abbot. A Liberal mob besieged the Constitutional Club for hours and broke every window. They assaulted Miss Pankhurst and Mrs Martell, the agitators for female suffrage, rolling them in the mud, for working against the Liberals.

Thought we'd found our first ever Matchmaker...

from National Library of Ireland on The Commons

  • beachcomber australia said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Thanks for the clock. Looks like noon, unless the clock needs fixing. Perhaps the local watchmaker can help ...
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Ankle length skirt, top hat on yerman, we are a lot closer to 1900 than 1936
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Rathmines Town Hall opened in 1896 (earliest date).
    " ...The clock in the tower was made by Chancellor and Son of Bachelors Walk, but it was unreliable and the time shown on the different faces were inconsistent, so the clock became known as the "four-faced liar". ... "
    via - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathmines_Town_Hall
  • John Spooner said:
    Dublin Evening Mail - Wednesday 12 December 1906. Kearns the watchmaker was a JJ just like his neighbour at number 74. Dublin Evening Mail - Wednesday 12 December 1906
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    beachcomber australia Glad you brought up unreliability. Is it just my ancient wonky eyes, or is the left-hand hand face not as exactly on High Noon?
  • Suck Diesel said:
    C.1914 according to here, but who knows
    Pity that the tram numbers is obscured
    I see another, almost identical, shot at 1:25

    www.historicalpicturearchive.com/shop/pictures/town-hall-...
  • John Spooner said:
    A 74 Rathmines Road was J J Kiernan, where (amongst other places in the city) Dublin readers of the Irish Weekly could obtain their copy. ( Irish News and Belfast Morning News - Saturday 11 November 1911)
  • John Spooner said:
    And at number 75
    Lady of the House - Friday 15 October 1915 (Lady of the House - Friday 15 October 1915)
  • John Spooner said:
    Earliest advert for Bosset I can find is in Freeman's Journal - Monday 19 January 1903, when he was looking for an assistant who was a "good razor-setter".

    Latest non-Bosset at the address was a Mr Cookman, who was in the same line of work, and "Hair Cutter to the Lord Lieutenant" ( Evening Irish Times - Wednesday 28 September 1881 ).

    His last advert was in Dublin Evening Telegraph - Saturday 02 November 1901
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner "Ladies' Own Combings made up"??? Forgive so many question marks, but have a lot of questions! Did you bring your own strands that you cut/gathered through strenuous combing/fell out to have "made up" into early 20th century "extensions"?
  • John Spooner said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons In a word, yes Monsieur Bosset's predecessor at number 75, Mr Cookman, was much more explicit in his adverts. Irish Times - Tuesday 03 August 1880 Probably raises more questions than it answers Irish Times - Tuesday 03 August 1880

    Also in another advert ( Irish Times - Thursday 30 August 1883 ) "Parties requiring Wigs send size of glove that you wear, and colour of Hair. P.O.O of one pound and a perfectly fitting wig will be returned"

    SIze of glove?????
  • Foxglove said:
    Many years ago a friend of SE Asian decent used to grow his hair (straight, thick and black) long and then sell it to hair merchants for wigs... Apparently it was good money and a free hair cut too :-)
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Nearby in the catalogue and geographically, we dated the Eason below to August 1911
  • John Spooner said:
    Also in the 1880 advert - "The supply of hair has become much smaller on account of the Clergy of Breton forbidding the girls to sell their hair in the markets of Auray and Quimper (see the Graphic of August 18th)."

    So cheaper to parcel up your own.

    Off I go to the Graphic.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Fare thee well in The Graphic!
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Foxglove And see also German hair in John Spooner's Mr Cookman advert above.
  • John Spooner said:
    The Graphic - Saturday 18 August 1883
    It is pleasant to note that the esthetic craze for short hair has spent itself, but what of the ladies who cut off their tresses two years ago? They appear to be buying back, and at high prices,for hair has become dear since the Roman Catholic clergy have forbidden Breton girls to sell their hair in public fairs. Most of the trade hair has now to be procured in the free- thinking districts of Normandy, Hainault, and Burgundy, where close-fitting caps are still worn ; but it costs twice as mouch as that which the Breton girls used to sell in the fairs of Auray and Quimper.

    Would have been a good idea for fashionable ladies to keep their cropped hair just in case.
  • John Spooner said:
    Too late for me to have much of a need for one of Mr Kearns' silver mounted combs, but on a podcast I heard recently, answering the question as to why we don't see any bald TV presenters nowadays, it was stated that the very best hair transplants were to be had at an exclusive establishment in Dublin, and that's where all the top stars from all over Europe go. They didn't mention that this was a continuation of a long tradition.
  • John Spooner said:
    The Bossets in 1911 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmine...
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons The tram is the no. 15 to Terenure, identified by its triangular route symbol.
    These symbols were in use between 1903 and 1918, when route numbers were introduced
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Niall McAuley I shopped in Lee’s, about a hundred years ago!
  • Suck Diesel said:


    This is the old Town Hall, from when Rathmines was an independent township
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley Suck Diesel Happy to go with 1903-1911.
  • Suck Diesel said:

    The Dartry Dye Works, in the banks of the Dodder
    See their shop next to Town Hall
  • John Spooner said:
    Claude Bosset is listed in UK, World War II Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945
    "BOSSET, Claude of 12A Warwick Chambers. 28 July 1944 at Junction of Earl's Court Road and Kensington High Street. Aged 75"
    (matches his age in the 1911 census, and sons Jean and Louis had already moved to London in the 1921 census).

    That late in the war it was probably a V1 raid (doodlebug). But too early for a V2. Such raids weren't reported in the press for obvious reasons, but this website has details

    On 28th July 1944, in the period known in the second world war as Doodlebug Summer, there was the highest single death toll recorded in Kensington. The V1 hit the J Lyons Cafe at 1.30 at the corner of Earl’s Court Road and Kensington High Street (where Magnet/Waitrose is today).

    Jan Gore wrote in her book Send More Shrouds – The V1 Attack on the Guards’ Chapel, published in 2017. “The second incident that day was at 1.30 pm in Kensington at the junction of Earl’s Court Road and Kensington High Street. All the cafès were packed, and people were out shopping in their lunch hours. Reports varied between 38 and 45 people killed, 54 seriously injured and 116 slightly injured”.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel Rathmines Township also built this reservoir which we visited previously.
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons That’s correct, everybody else could get their water from the canal or whatever, but Rathmines wanted a proper water supply.
    I’ve just noticed that our photo doesn’t show the library on the corner.
    Will have to look that one up
  • Suck Diesel said:
    The library was built in 1913 by Carnegie
    Not in our photo, so there’s an end date.
    So far, date range narrowed down to 1903 - 1912
  • Suck Diesel said:
    maps.app.goo.gl/89kkKAox6zj5s1oK8

    The library is hard to miss in streetview!
    The building with the triangular front, still extant, behind the tram was the old fire station..
  • Suck Diesel said:
    The bottom of Leinster road appears to have entrance gates?
    What’s that about?
  • John Spooner said:
    Claude Bosset and Florence Ann Parnell married in Buxton, Derbyshire in April 1898
    RS00013341_4452052-00147(1)

    Buxton was a spa town, the sort of place where well-heeled people would go to take the waters. The local paper published lists of visitors, details of who was staying where, and in the Buxton Herald of Wednesday 27 September 1899, at Mrs Parnell's, 99 London Road are "Bosset, Mr Mrs and fam. Dublin". so Mrs Parnell would have met her little grandson Jean, only a few months old at the time.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner And still lots of French Connections. One witness was Armand Louis Manson, I read it as.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel I think its Leinster Square that has the gates. Leinster road would be further down on the left?
  • John Spooner said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Ancestry.co.uk has a naturalisation document, dated 1913, for Armand Louis Manson, born 1872 in Paris, a hairdresser.

    And a Armand Louis Manson (born 1872) died at Kensington in 1944, but earlier in the year than Claude Bosset (1st quarter)
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Hopefully Monsieur Manson did not also sadly succumb to a Sudden Death Klaxon.
  • John Spooner said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons I can't find him in the list of WWII civilian deaths, so probably not.

    A different Armand Louis Manson was born in 1908 in Dublin, which I would have dismissed as coincidence, except his with-hindsight-unfortuately-named father Charles Manson is listed in the 1911 census as a 'hair specialist'.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Also nearby, not precisely dated but consistent with 1911 census:
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley Not precisely, but fairly well dated. Could we go for Circa 1911 for our Eason Town Hall above? I'm inclined to think we could.
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons You could well be correct.

    maps.app.goo.gl/yD25ZUsaW91uoh8A8?g_st=ac

    Streetview from the square actually shows a remaining pillar.
    So, ignore my earlier comment re the library and end date
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons The township was fiercely independent and also had its own electricity generating plant (1900?)
    I remember some strange looking antique fuse boards in the old library
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Looking at the 1900ish 25", I see a Rathmines UDC electricity station, refuse destructor and morgue grouped together.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    And nearby, an Astronomical Works, which I think we have heard of before.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Patrick Comerford has some excellent detailed blogs about Rathmines ...

    The Town Hall - www.patrickcomerford.com/2023/06/rathmines-town-hall-and-...

    Library - www.patrickcomerford.com/2023/06/rathmines-library-has-be...

    Leinster Road - www.patrickcomerford.com/2023/12/retracing-my-steps-in-my...

    Leinster Square - www.patrickcomerford.com/2023/12/wandering-through-litera...
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Niall McAuley That was Grubb
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Just came across this recollection by Patrick Comerford

    www.patrickcomerford.com/2023/12/retracing-my-steps-in-my...

    Where he recalls that “Leinster Road was laid out around 1835-1840 to connect Rathmines and Harold’s Cross, over the former lands of Mowld’s Farm. Leinster Road was originally gated at the Rathmines or east end. The Harold’s Cross or western section followed the line of the Swan River, which was culverted at this time”

    His companion article on Leinster Sq. doesn’t mention any gates

    www.patrickcomerford.com/2023/12/wandering-through-litera...

    However, the 25” shows the Royal Bank of Ireland nearly opposite Leinster Sq., which matches the photo.
    So, perhaps Patrick’s recollection is at fault.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    On the 25", the gates or at least railings are clearly on Leinster Square, not road. So the library/technical institute would not be seen even if present?
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Niall McAuley Yes, my bad.
    The ‘refuse destructor’ is still there, now a public dump, I’ve often used it when I missed the bin lorry, entrance from Gullistan Ave.
    The electricity station site is now/was the ESB meter testing station.
    The morgue is probably gone

    Just shows how separate and independent the township was in those times.

    I’m still curious regarding the gated entrance and what that was about.
    Dublin had/has many private parks open only to the residents, but a private road?
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New York - Paris race - Lelouvier and driver (LOC)

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If a tree falls in a forest, will it end up in a sawmill?

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  • Foxglove said:
    several so young that schooling was basic and an an apprenticeship was gold.. several early teens in the rows
  • C R said:
    Meath Chronicle 1908, p65. Navan Sawmill & Furniture Factory.
    It is pleasing to learn that these industries are doing well. The Saw Mill was one of the enterprises started by the late Mr James McCann. and the results were so encouraging as to induce the present properties to add a furniture-making department. This development took place some eighteen _months ago, and the anticipations then formed have, to a large extent, been realised. The factory buildings are of a massive character and situated amidst one of the most charming scenes to be met with in the Boyne Valley. The distance from Navan by road is about a mile. By the canal bank, there is a shorter and more picturesque route. On one side is the Boyne, with the wooded slopes of Blackcastle on the opposite side; on the other, the Canal, shaded by lofty trees, which extend in unbroken array from the town to Alhlumney. Free trade has spelt ruin for many a prosperous mill in Ireland, and Alhlumney amongst the number. Here was a great flour milling industry killed by foreign competition. For some years after die blow had fallen, Mr Chadwick kept the concern going on a smaller scale, the operations _beinii chiefly confined to the grinding of the meal. At last, the day came when those magnificent buildings - perhaps the finest of the kind in L.einster - became totally derelict, and so they remained until the late Mr James McCann appeared on the scene and started the sawmill three years ago.

    The mill premises afford unrivalled facilities for the manufacturing industries to which they are now devoted. A water wheel with" some hundred horsepower capacity keeps the machinery in motion and generates electric light. The Canal runs literally by the door, and one of the new boats - "The Naomh Padraig" - built in the late Mr McCann's time, was at the time of our visit, waiting outside for its cargo. The Saw Mills are equipped with the best modern machinery, and capable of turning out every variety of work appertaining to a concern of the kind. Large supplies of native oak, ash, elm and walnut are being constantly taken in and turned into marketable shape. Large quantities of the output are conveyed by canal to Drogheda, and thence by steamer to Liverpool. The special products of the Furniture Factory are drawing-T/_te timber yard at Alhlumney Mill, "Ramparts; " Navan

    room, dining-room, and library suites, and Windsor chairs. For excellence of workmanship and elegance of design they compare favourably with the productions of any rival establishment. They have already gained a large and growing market in the cities and principal towns of Ireland.

    The Factory is thoroughly equipped, and when the various departments are in full swing, a visit will be well repaid. The rough timber undergoes a preparatory treatment for the extraction of the sap, after which jl is ready for the manufacturing process. There are various machines for cutting it into accurate dimensions and moulding it according to the various styles of ornamentation. The parts are then delivered to the frame makers, who fit them together. The frames are sent to the polishers and finally to the upholsterers and packers, who complete the process.

    Between 70 and 100 hands are constantly employed in the Saw Mills and Furniture Factory. Mr. Mortimer is the general manager.

Stockholm - the capital of sweden

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  • JSK B said:
    before they drove on the right-hand side

Operating a hand drill at Vultee-Nashville, woman is working on a "Vengeance" dive bomber, Tennessee (LOC)

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Vogue - Didi Abreu, Details thru Didi (LOC)

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Cat on a hot rope leash?

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I Am Navy Medicine – and Victim Advocate – Hospital Corpsman 1st Class Robediane G. Santiago 240417-N-QW460-1024

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  • Michael Urias said:
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F.A. Cup Trophy

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Belin receiving a telephotograph (LOC)

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Enterprise on Main Street

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  • Suck Diesel said:
    Same town, different bus, looks prosperous
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Poster at left seems to be for a Tit Bits issue (no laughing at the back!) How King George Saved (my) Life

    King George means 1910 onwards.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    A few minutes before ('Enterprise' is stopped in a queue}. Sadly I cannot read the clock in either - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322755
  • Niall McAuley said:
    IJ 401 is registered to Thomas Heston & co. In the 1914 motorist thingy.

    In 1914, the IJs go to 1000, so 400 is at least 1907.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    On the Spectator window, if the AND is centred, there are 5 letters before -----AMPER
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley And I think the AND is indeed centred. I got exhausted after camper, decamper, clamper, glamper. None of which would be good money spinners back around 1907.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    No help with Lawrence 1914 latest date, but the Medical Hall middle distance was replaced by an Ulster Bank in 1920 - www.geograph.ie/photo/3888719#
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Nearly everything has been rebuilt, except the courthouse which has lost its cupola; or is it a belvedere?
    Bangorview - maps.app.goo.gl/hTW7UjDyCtPMiBSk7
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    beachcomber australia Don't believe that after all these years, you can't tell the difference between a cupola and a belvedere!
  • DannyM8 said:
    I see a black dog.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Census no help on AMPER, Photographer and... is usually Retoucher
  • Foxglove said:
    Well done Danny, I missed that one while trying to solve the amper anagram
  • beachcomber australia said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Just testing to see if anyone is awake/alive !

    How about REVAMPER ? www.wordunscrambler.net/words/ends-with-amper
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Foxglove It's a headscratcher, isn't it?
  • DannyM8 said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons beachcomber australia Foxglove it might not be Photographer could be Lithographer? Spectator Office is probably a newspaper?
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    DannyM8 I sit corrected. You may well be right. I was so focused on the ...AMPER, I assumed Photographer. I will amend in the description above, thanks.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    PRINTER AND BINDER ?? Or even BOOKBINDER ?
    catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000040705

    Edit - As you were; that's an earlier photo.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    beachcomber australia I have been having a nagging notion about [some sort of]STAMPER? Making rubber stamps used to be allied to printing.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Could be 2 words, like BOOK LAMPER (not a thing)
  • Niall McAuley said:
    I found a dictionary of old occupations page which says KEY STAMPER used to be a thing.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley Hmm, KEY STAMPER might be a runner, or at least a walker...
  • John Spooner said:
    The County Down Spectator and Ulster Standard regularly advertised the services available at the Spectator Office in Bangor (and Newtonards). This was in the form of a list (which has lost the formatting of the original advert as it appeared) , which took up a whole column. I can't see anything obvious, but here is the list from Friday 23 February 1906:
    PRINTING. PRINTING of every description in BLACK AND COLORED INKS Any Variety of Style, Ornamentai and Plain Executed with rapidity, accuracy, and punctuality, and at Moderate Prices. THE GENERAL PRINTING WORKS, THE “Spectator” Office PLACARDS. POSTERS, WINDOW BILLS, AND HANDBILLS OF EVERY SIZE, IN EVERY COLOR AND AT MODERATE PRICES. COMMERCIAL PRINTING Headings, Catalogues, Memorandun Trade Circulars, Lists of Goods, Account Forms, Invoices, Returns and Statements, Cards, Tickets, and Labels, Handbills, Circulars, Billheads, Delivery Books, é&c. BOOK PRINTING IN ALL STYLES REPORTS, PAMPHLETS AND CATALOGUES, SERMONS AND LECTURES, ESSAYS, POEMS. &C. LEGAL PRINTING OF ALL KINDS. INDENTURES, SCHEDULES, DEEDS, NOTICES, 4TS AND CATALOGUES, SERMONS AND LECTURES, ESSAYS, POEMS. &C. LEGAL PRINTING OF ALL KINDS. INDENTURES, SCHEDULES, DEEDS, NOTICES, 4&C. COUNTRY ORDERS. receive Prompt Attention. Orders sent in from the Country will receive Prompt Attention. &C. COUNTRY ORDERS. l PROGRAMMES, BOOKS OF WORDS, CARDS OF ADMISSION TO CONCERTS, LECTURES, AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ENTERTAINMENTS. THE “SPECTATOR” OFFICE, BANGOR. > Possesses a Large and Assorted Supply of Type, the Proprietor being therefore enabled to give the Public guarantee a’ every satisfaction to all Orders receiver
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Well, that'd drive you demented! They list everything bar the kitchen sink, but not a whiff of any ...AMPERing.
  • John Spooner said:
    The Spectator's first edition was Friday 3rd June 1904, and its last was in 1915. The advert was soon shortened to the last bit about the Large and Assorted Supply of Type, so no clues there.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    1910-1914, rather than 1907
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley Amended.
  • John Spooner said:
    County Down Spectator and Ulster Standard - Friday 15 July 1910County Down Spectator and Ulster Standard - Friday 15 July 1910

    The Mr Morrow mentioned is likely Matthew Morrow, County Down Spectator and Ulster Standard - Friday 29 April 1910 in a report of an election meeting at Donaghadee:
    Mr Matthew Morrow kindly conveyed a large party from Bangor in his fine new passenger motor.


    On Friday 28 April 1911 it was reported that "Mr Matthew Morrow has already his two motor cars doing daily service to Donaghadee, and he will have a third on the road within a fortnight." (new motor confirmed in July)

    And on 16th May 1913
    New Bangor Motor
    On Saturday the new motor char-a-banc, built by Messrs Hugh Burrows and Son. Newtownards, to the order of Mr Matthew Morrow, Bangor, will start running. From what we have seen of the machine, it is a credit to all concerned, and says much the workmanship of the local engineers by whom It has been built. Mr Morrow's enterprise is certainly very creditable, and as he believes in supporting local industry It Is a pity that more reciprocity In this direction is not extended to him by our local councils/
  • John Spooner said:
    By the 1930s, Mr Matthew Morrow of Bangor was a director of the Belfast Omnibus Company. ( North Down Herald and County Down Independent - Saturday 08 December 1934 )
  • John Spooner said:
    If the building numbers are the same, this is the "motor Garage" seen in the distance (County Down Spectator and Ulster Standard - Friday 03 May 1912) County Down Spectator and Ulster Standard - Friday 03 May 1912

    Matthew Morrow opened a motor garage in 1910, but that was in Holborn Avenue.
  • Suck Diesel said:
    John Spooner Were there also electric cars then?
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Pollocks Jewellers are in the 1912 Lennon Wylie

    www.lennonwylie.co.uk/PT1912.htm
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons No Pollock Jewellers, Main St., in the 1910 Lennon Wylie.
    So 1911 onwards?
    www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Bangor-4.php
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel Thank you, Mr Diesel. Happy to change the date to 1911-1914.
  • John Spooner said:
    Suck Diesel The wikipedia page on automotive batteries says
    Early cars did not have batteries, as their electrical systems were limited. Electric power for the ignition was provided by a magneto, the engine was started with a crank, headlights were gas-powered and a bell or bulb-horn was used instead of an electric horn. Car batteries became widely used around 1920 as cars became equipped with electric starter motors.

    However, a 1911 advert for the Bangor Motor & Electrical Works says that one of their services is "accumulators charged", and as I understand it accumulator is another term for a lead-acid battery.
    Perhaps the accumulators were used just for powering lamps, and had to be charged periodically.

    There are no doubt many people who, unlike me, know what they are talking about in these matters.
  • Suck Diesel said:
    John Spooner The very earliest cars in the US were a mix of petrol and battery powered, but not in Ireland that I know off.
    More likely the “accumulators” referred to the rechargeable battery commonly used then to power the wireless.
    This being the days before mains radios were available.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Mr Matthew Morrow seems to have chosen uplifting names for his fleet of charabancs; 'Enterprise', 'Reliance', and ?Wing??. Can't quite read the middle one (here we go again!). Possibly Mr Morrow standing on the right, looking proprietorial, as if he commissioned Mr French / Lawrence to take a series of publicity photos - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322755
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Thanks everyone for trying to solve the ...AMPER puzzle today. I'm not giving up yet. As beachcomber australia always says: "Someone will know".
  • Niall McAuley said:
    beachcomber australia I think the middle bus is Invincible
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Niall McAuley Good call !

    If they are the three Morrow 'motors', that would put the photos after 16 May 1913 (via John Spooner's "New Bangor Motor" find above).
  • Suck Diesel said:
    beachcomber australia Probably more than anybody wants to know, but here’s a history of the early days of Bangor buses.
    No mention of “wings”, alas
    Mr. Morrow’s Enterprise service started in 1909.

    “The first road service from Bangor was started in 1906 by Arthur Stringer and was a summer only service to Donaghadee, and in 1909 a similar service was operated by Matthew Morrow with a solid-tyre charabanc. The normal fare was 1/d., but during the 1914-18 War competition was so intense that at one time it was reduced at 2d.
    On the 6th of June, 1924, Mr. Morrow's "Enterprise Bus Company" started a service to Belfast, still with solid-tyred charabancs. At the outset there were four runs a day - three by Clandeboye and one via Crawfordsburn - and the return fare was 1/6d. compared with the third class railway fare of 2/4d., and in March, 1925, the "Bangor Queen Company" started a rival service.
    In the summer of 1925 the "Enterprise" Company introduced the first solid-tyred bus, and it was not until 1926 that pneumatic tyres were used.
    In 1926, to encourage further traffic, the return fare to Belfast was reduced to 1/-d., when the outward journey was made before 10.0 a.m.
    About the same time the "Enterprise" Company withdrew its service to Donaghadee so as to concentrate all its vehicles on the Belfast Road.
    Services between Bangor and Newtownards were also started in the early 1920s, the "Ards Transport Company" running via Conlig, and Coey's service running via Six-Road-Ends,
    This latter service was later taken over by John O'Neill of the "Tonic Company."
    Still another company operating from Bangor was the "Pioneer Company" run by Jacob O'Neill.
    In 1927 the "Belfast Omnibus Company" took over the Enterprise, Bangor Queen and Ards Transport Companies, while in 1935 it, in its turn, was taken over by the Northern Ireland Road Transport Board”

    lennonwylie.co.uk/BangorC5.htm#Coach
  • Suck Diesel said:
    beachcomber australia Looks like ‘Invincible’
    Not mentioned in that bus history
  • CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY said:
    Lithographer and Damper. It is a process.
  • VladimirovaS said:
    Suck Diesel 👍
  • VladimirovaS said:
    John Spooner 👍
  • VladimirovaS said:
    Very interesting and useful comments on the photo! 👍👋
    Greetings 😊
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY This is very helpful, thank you! As the lettering in the window appears to be centred, and you know about this process, could there be another very short word before Damper?
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    VladimirovaS Hello there.
  • CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY said:
    Just researching lithography, the reference also informed on a "damper" process . . . but the word could also be stamper.

    There would not be many words containing "amper". Most do not make sense, when combined with lithography. So, damper or stamper would serve. I cannot find 5 letters preceding"amper".

    www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley/
    en.wikwik.org/m/a/5/wordswithamper.htm
    www.flickr.com/photos/adambangor/2811888712
    www.geograph.ie/photo/717181
    www.findmypast.co.uk/newspapers/northern-ireland/county-d...
    "Earliest issue: June 3, 1904"
    www.irishnews.com/notices/livesremembered/2019/01/26/news...

    Well, that's the limit of my research. Ask the current owner of the "Spectator". Surely, they would know their own history and may even have photos.
    www.medialive.ie/index.php?option=com_sobipro&pid=338...
    countydownspectator.co.uk/
  • VladimirovaS said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons 👍😊

Unidentified house, Washington?, Wilkes County, Georgia (LOC)

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  • 3 older comments, and then…
  • Jon (LOC P&P) said:
    Thanks for the suggestion pepperjackb. A showed the photos of this house to a few other librarians and we compared it with photos of the it online today. We think there is a chance it is the same building but we would really like to something to confirm it, either an older photo taken when the house was in similar condition or someone from the Museum confirming it is the house. I sent an email to the museum but so far I haven't heard back.

Captions, please! Enter our Caption Competition to celebrate 10 years of Volunteer Takeover of NLI Flickr...

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  • 31 older comments, and then…
  • Dún Laoghaire Micheál said:
    Lady on right: "Here's one we made earlier. Now we're going to show how you too can make a stuffed toy. All you need is some feathers and fur . . ."
  • Rita Dolan said:
    I said I was ‘partial to animals’, Edith - not ‘a party animal’!
  • una faller said:
    that face you make when you remember what they say about working with animals...
  • dermot byrne said:
    The smile that tells you, "All is well in hand ".
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
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    I said I was ‘partial to animals’, Edith - not ‘a party animal’!

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  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Rita Dolan Congratulations! Happy choosing of your favourite photo! Only 3,939 for you to choose from...
  • Rita Dolan said:
    Delighted to be chosen as the winner! (Just emailed exhibitions@nli.ie). No offence to Edith and Mary in the pic, but I think I may be selecting one of the Library’s other photos to grace the walls of my office!
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Rita Dolan Absolutely no offence taken! 😀

Déanta in Eirinn

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  • Suck Diesel said:
    The 1893 Chicago World’s Fair?
    This photo and similar on this site, but subscription only

    www.manchesterhive.com/display/9781526157270/978152615727...
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Lady Aberdeen?
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel Lady Aberdeen appears in the album alright, de réir na Krazy Kataloguers.
  • O Mac said:
    The boys were dress ganged
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Another of Ishbel -
    megazoom - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000593036


    See - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishbel_Hamilton-Gordon,_Marchioness...
  • John Spooner said:
    I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone that it was Chancellor & Sons who had a movable boudoir for the conveyance of sitters to the Galleries, thus obviating the trouble of ascending the stairs.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    O Mac *standing ovation*
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Maybe you don't need to remind us, but it is ever a delight nonetheless, as it obviates the trouble of us having to remember for ourselves!
  • Bernard Healy said:
    This account of Lady Aberdeen - mentioning her promotion of Irish industries - squares with the idea of her wearing that outfit. www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/an-irishman-s-diary-o...
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Via Trove from March 1907 -
    trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25699180?searchTerm=la...

    " ... Just at present Dublin's gayer than London, and all the fun of the fair seems to have been in Erin's capital, where Lady Aberdeen proves a most popular and delightful hostess at the Castle. Indeed, she has entertained so lavishly that she has been obliged to appoint four pages instead of two, as these young gentlemen are quite unable to stand the late hours unless relieved in turn by others. A new and, I hear, unpopular rule has been introduced at the Viceregal Court by which no gentleman is allowed to be present at a drawing-room unless accompanied by a lady. This is turning the tables with a vengeance on the stronger sex, who must resent it. Hitherto, anyone could go who had attended a levee, and the gay young bachelors looked forward to a drawing-room, where they met the debutante and other fair friends. The presence of these gallant young swains in their various smart uniforms and Court dress undoubtedly added considerably to the brilliancy of the scene. This no-admission rule has of late been in force at Buckingham Palace in order to economise the space. The Dublin Courts have been less formal and partook more of the character of an evening party, where the intercourse between the guests is much freer and more unrestrained. ... ...
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel And I should have said properly earlier, thank you for identifying Lady Aberdeen. That gives us a great foundation.
  • John Spooner said:
    Leeds Mercury - Monday 21 January 1907:
    The first Levee is to be held on the 29th of this month, and the first Drawing Room on the following day. Lady Aberdeen has chosen as her pages the two younger brothers of last year’s pages, the Hon. Gerald Plunkett, son of the Earl and Countess of Fingall, and Sir John and Lady Arnott’s youngest son, Master Tom Arnott.
  • John Spooner said:
    Yorkshire again. Halifax Daily Guardian - Wednesday 17 March 1909
    LADY ABERDEEN'S ROBE. Lady Aberdeen’s full Court robe was magnificent. The rich splendour of the materials made a substantial background for the masses of needlework applied to the old gold poplin of which the dress itself was composed. Across the skirt the Irish trademark was emblazoned in cream and §old threads with borders and bands of Kells embroideries. A wide train of cream-coloured poplin fell from the shoulders, and upon this was wrought in gold a heavy interlaced border made from a design to be found among the illuminated pages of the Book of Kells. Her Excellency wore Irish ornaments, with her superb emeralds.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Found a snippet in the Freeman's Journal from 15 January 1907, saying:
    With a view to giving some protection against fraud, an Irish Trade Mark has just been registered. The mark, which is an old Irish design, 2ith the motto "Deanta in Eirinn" (made in Ireland), can now be legally fixed to all Irish goods, and is a guarantee that they come from that country.

    In London, a suggestion was sent to the Board of Trade that England should do something similar, with a rose design.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner To borrow from beachcomber australia, you're always amazing! So it was St. Patrick's Day Eve in 1909.

    Was it still Gerald Plunkett and Tom Arnott, or had other boys been "dress ganged"?
  • John Spooner said:
    Daily Mirror - Tuesday 16 March 1909. Are these the same pages? Daily Mirror - Tuesday 16 March 1909
  • John Spooner said:
    The 1909 pages were named in Lady of the House - Monday 15 February 1909 - "Lady Aberdeen's pages this year are Master Alick de Burgh (senior page) and Master Pim (junior page)."

    Edit: The Illustrated London News says they are Tom Arnott and Cecil Pim. (caption of the same photo as the Daily Mail)
  • beachcomber australia said:
    John Spooner Thinking that is this dress, also described via Trove in February 1909 - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/126572486?searchTerm=l...

    " ... Beautiful embrolderies were the salient feature of the gowns seen at the second Dublin drawing-room. Lady Aberdeen's gown of the palest shade of silver-grey chlffon velvot created a furore of admiration. The embroidery expreasod a Celtic design taken from 'Tho Book of Kells, and was the work of tho Royal Irish School of Art. Needlework. The sleeves of this attractive gown were of exquisite Limerick lace, the manluru de cour being of velvet of a deeper shape outlined with embroidery and draped with Irish lace. ..."
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Have squinted through my pince-nez, and I think they're the same. So Pim on the left, and de Burgh on the right, assuming senior is taller/older?
  • John Spooner said:
    London Daily Chronicle - Thursday 11 February 1909. Sounds like there was some squad rotation going on:
    " The Court train was carried by three pages, who have recently been appointed to the office of Viceregal trainbearers. They were Masters Alick de Burgh, Cecil Pim, and Peter Burton. "
  • John Spooner said:
    The Queen - Saturday 13 February 1909 gives a fuller name for Peter Burton - Master Peter Denys-Burton (son and heir of Sir Francis Denys-Burton)
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Here she is at The Peerage - www.thepeerage.com/p2473.htm#i24723
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    N.B. Off topic, but today's your last day to enter our Caption Competition! Winner will be announced tomorrow...
  • John Spooner said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons I'm not convinced of the March 15th date. The Daily Mirror picture is credited to Lafayette, not Chancellor, and the dress (and pages) appeared to have been used on other occasions.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Boooo! But you're right. I got over-excira! Amended to just 1909? now
  • Suck Diesel said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Only half right, correct lady but wrong location.
    They sure lived the life of Reilly in those days.
    Good find by John Spooner.
  • Suck Diesel said:

    Couldn’t miss the opportunity to include a pic of the ’Irish Village’ at the Chicago World Fair, complete with a reproduction of Blarney Castle and its stone, in which Lady Aberdeen was involved
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel Marvellous! And apparently, in true Irish tradition, there was The Split! Read in a newspaper that another Lady Somebody ( sorry, can't remember her name) launched a rival Irish Village. Finally, peace broke out when the rival was renamed Donegal Irish Village.
  • John Spooner said:
    (Charles) Peter Denys-Burton at thepeerage www.thepeerage.com/p71500.htm#i714991

    and Tom Arnott who had a distinguished military career www.thepeerage.com/p3270.htm#i32698

    both born 1899.
  • John Spooner said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Mrs Hart
  • Foxglove said:
    The boy on right has an expression that suggests "jesus! if any of me mates sees me dressed like this I will never live it down :-)"
  • John Spooner said:
    Most of the other pictures in the album (specifically those of debutantes and not of Lady A at no 46) have the same unconvincing backdrop including a small balustrade(?bannister). I assume these were taken in Chancellors' studio (just round the corner from the Gunpowder Office) where the M B would have obviated the need for them to use the stairs in their impractical ensembles.

    Edit: on reflection I think it much more likely that Chancellor went to a debutantes' ball with his camera and a dodgy backdrop and the attendees (and their chaperones) went in one by one to his temporary studio. No obviation requited.

    Number 56 shows two pages, and has the caption "Lady Aberdeen's Pages, Master Tom Arnett and the Hon Gerald Plunket". They don't look like the two with Lady Aberdeen on No 46.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    John Spooner Shaking my metaphorical at Lady Aberdeen's consideration for her pageboys, ensuring they rotated duties and didn't become overtired!
  • beachcomber australia said:
    [Aside]
    Reminded of an awful old quip with literary pretensions:
    In the days of Good Queen Bess, the Queen liked to curl up with a good book; her lady-in-waiting was happy with one of the pages.
    😲
  • beachcomber australia said:
    What is she saying in Fan Language ? ...

    Open wide ........ Wait for me

    via - www.tonyamitchellauthor.com/post/the-not-so-subtle-art-of...
  • Suck Diesel said:
    ..the dress she wore at a Pageant of Irish Industries, held in St Patrick's Hall, Dublin Castle, in 1909. She arrived in splendour, wearing most stately and becoming gown of pale saffron Irish poplin ... the bodice draped with most beautiful Clonmacnoise lace, fastened with gold Celtic ornamel and diamonds; the graceful sleeves were the same lace?..'" Attached to the gown was her official court train, made by Mrs Sims of Dublin, and embroidered by the Royal Irish School of Art Needlework during her previous period as vicereine in the Castle in 1886. Most significant, however, was the embroidered detail, presumably by the Royal Irish School of Art Needlework, that had been added to the front of the dress. Featuring raised gold embroidery on a white poplin ground', the emblem displayed was, in fact, the Irish national trademark, upon which was inscribed, in the Irish language, the words Déanta in Eirinn, meaning 'made in Ireland'

    Vicereines of Ireland
    Campbell, Myles
  • Suck Diesel said:
    beachcomber australia She was the "Queen of John Bull's Other Island"
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Pages on other occasions included “…The Countess and her pages are shown in full Court dress. At the time, Lord Killeen was the nine year old son of the Earl and Countess of Fingall. Master Robert Arnott, who was the same age, was the third son of Sir John and Lady Arnott, and was a page for two seasons under the late Lord Lieutenant.

    www.cat-o-pedia.org/ashtaroth-of-haddo.html
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Do I see a pattern here?
    More pages, this time in Canada

    www.tfcg.ca/history-of-pointe-gatineau
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Suck Diesel Jeepers. Cosmo Gordon is not happy about that ruff!

Suffragette meeting in gymnasium, London (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • Seuss. said:
    Emmeline Pankhurst on the left. Christabel Pankhurst on right?


[Worker installing a chandelier in the House of Representatives Dining Room] (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • Edmund said:
    "I'm dustin' the bulbs, Miss Daisy".

Mrs. Sauer hanging up oil lamp. Cavalier County, North Dakota (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • clive422 said:
    My aunty had oil lamps in her home in Cornwall during the 1960s. Nice picture.

Garfield Assassination Site

from DCPL Commons

Cafe Cathay at night featuring its neon facade containing two large Chinese dragons

from State Library of Queensland

  • Michael Lehmann said:
    Many thanks for adding The Surfers Paradise Cafe Cathay to CRWDP!

    Have tagged for the pool-index :-)

William Street from corner near College Street, Sydney, 1934, by Sam Hood

from State Library of New South Wales

02_H-00478 Susan Hardy PSA Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Mitch Barrie said:
    My god, those wigs.
  • CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY said:
    How times and Cabin Crew have changed.

02_H-00477 Susan Hardy PSA Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Giovanni Massa said:
    I know what happened next.

This Cold and Flu Season Nothing to Sneeze at

from Navy Medicine

  • k said:
    Yes we can!!!

Lane off George Street North, Sydney, c. 1906,

from State Library of New South Wales

  • covid convict said:
    I'm not sure when this pic was taken...possibly during the demolitions that took place in ca. 1908 for the widening of George St North...if you zoom in on the original, at the top of the stairs you can see the 'Sailors Welcome' signage painted on the wall of the Ocean Wave Hotel...this doesn't appear in the pics taken in [1901], so it's later than then...the Ocean Wave Hotel was evidently demolished in 1908, so that's a latest date...

    Also see the comments and links at these pics
  • geoff.barker285 said:
    i checked the poster re subdivision sale in Manly which was in 1906 so am presuming around that date.
  • covid convict said:
    geoff.barker285 Good! I didn't see it!

A13_0042 Oxygen Tank Serial

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  • 1 older comment, and then…
  • Bill Abbott said:
    Very valuable photo. How in world the wiring was damaged, then it was dropped, then bolted into SM 109 and became part of Apollo 13, with documented test anomalies, is a complete mystery. The through-line to the Challenger disaster, then Hubble Space Telescope being launched without an end-to-end test of the optical system, and with more than one heavily used fine positioning gyroscope installed, followed by the loss of the first Ariane 5, the Mars Climate Orbiter, and then the Columbia Shuttle suggest that "moving fast and breaking things" is exciting for uninhabited vehicles when you have a fat bank account, but not good advice in general. Just sayin'.

Six Sheehans? Some shyly smiling, some simply serious...

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  • beachcomber australia said:
    10 June 1947 was a Pouffeday ...
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    beachcomber australia Sounds legit. Amended above, thank you.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Here is a Nicholas Sheehan of Dunmore getting married in 1935 to a Mary Brigid Power of Corbally More.

    brother? William a witness
    civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marri...
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley I bet that's him. Married Mary Brigid Power on 11 June 1935. Was this photo a sort of anniversary celebration? Almost 12 years to the day?
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Here is a Nicholas with brother William in the 1911 census, Leperstown:

    www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Kille...
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Too late for birth records for the children, 100 year rule.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Niall McAuley Both Nicholas and his brother William aged 2. Twins or "Irish Twins", do you think?
  • John Spooner said:
    A Nicholas Sheehan was a member of Dunmore East Parish Council (report of meeting in Waterford Standard - Saturday 2 August 1941)
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Wow! ...
    www.legacy.com/ca/obituaries/theglobeandmail/name/mary-el...

    It is with profound sadness that the family of Mary Ellickson announces her passing from this world on Monday, February 26, 2024. Mary was born in Leperstown, Dunmore East, County Waterford, Ireland, on October 14, 1936, and was the eldest of six children of the late Nicholas and Bridget (Lil) Sheehan. Mary was raised in the Catholic faith, and she remained devoted to those beliefs throughout her life. Mary was a true example of a person whose life was shaped by her Christian beliefs. Mary immigrated to Canada in 1957, joining her soon to be husband, Peter Ellickson. ... ...
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq Wow indeed, and hello Mary! 10 years after this photo was taken, Mary was off to Canada...
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Another site has these two photos of Mary -


    From - www.kearneyfs.com/obituaries/mary-catherine-ellickson
  • Michaelkelly Kelly said:
    I want to know more about Leperstown
  • John Spooner said:
    Political ambitions beyond the Parish Council
    Waterford Standard - Saturday 18 October 1947
    Fine Gael, the chief opposition party in the Dail, in selecting Mr. Nicholas Sheehan, farmer, Leperstown. Dunmore East, as their candidate, have made a wise and popular choice. He is a man of fine character who will work in the' national interest faithfully and constructively. In the city and county he is receiving the support of all who wish to rid the country of the present political sham. A monster meeting will be held at Broad Street, Waterford, to-night in support of his candidature.
    Alas, after coming 2nd to John Ormonde (Fianna Fail)
    Mr. Nicholas Sheehan said that he prided himself the fact that they had put up a goad fight, and he believed they would do better in the near future.
    (Waterford Standard - Saturday 01 November 1947
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Yikes!

    "The Leaving of Leperstown"
    The Story of the Sheehans of Leperstown, Dunmore East, Co. Waterford
    By Catherine Floe · 2005

    www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Leaving_of_Leperstown...
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Michaelkelly Kelly - Here you are ... www.waterfordtreasures.com/the-leper-hospital-and-church-...

    ... According to tradition, the leper hospital was founded in 1185 by Robert le Poer [Power] who endowed it with almost 800 acres of land for its upkeep. King John granted a further 900 acres to the leper hospital when he visited Waterford in 1210 on condition that the lepers prayed daily for him. Most of this land was located near Dunmore East and in an area still known as Leperstown to this day. King John’s grant also included the land stretching from John’s Bridge through Johnstown and John’s Hill to Ballytruckle. All that remains of the leper hospital on the site now is a two-storey house with a limestone fireplace bearing the date 1632. ...
  • Swordscookie said:
    The current Morning Mary is setting a very high standard of alliteration today!
    Throwing down the gauntlet for those who might replace her
  • Niall McAuley said:
    National Library of Ireland on The Commons Nicholas and William were regular twins, both born on 14th September 1908, William the elder by 20 minutes.
  • Niall McAuley said:
    beachcomber australia From that first obit: settled for the rest of their lives in Vancouver joining our Aunt Catherine (Kate) and were soon to be joined by the rest of the Sheehan clan.

    So more of the family may have emigrated.
  • John Spooner said:
    In September 1933 Nicholas Sheehan of Leperstown and eight other farmers (including John Sheehan of Dunmore East) were arrested and charged "that being members of an unlawful association, they did promote, encourage, and advocate the non-payment of local taxation". There was a second charge , "that they conspired with others to compel persons to join the Farmers' and Ratepayers' League , and did also compel those persons to sign a document which said that the League adhered to its resolution , stating that owing to the economic war with Great Britain farmers in the Irish Free State were deprived of their means of livelihood and consequently were unable to meet their liabilities".

    After 3 weeks (or 4 weeks depending on who you believe) in Mountjoy prison, the were tried by a military tribunal at Collins barracks. The hearing lasted several days, from 5th October to 10th October 1933, on which day all nine farmers were acquitted of all charges. There was debate on the final day as to whether remarks by Mr de Valera had prejudiced the trial.

    The hearing was reported widely.
  • John Spooner said:
    Lil's death was reported in the Irish Independent on 3rd December 1993
    SHEEHAN - Lil - Dec. 1. 1993 in Vancouver Hospital. late of Leperstown. Dunmore East: deeply regretted by her sister. brother-in-law. nieces. nephews and ail her relatives and friends.
  • Liam Cheasty said:
    Michaelkelly Kelly
    Leperstown is in the Electoral Division of Killea, in Civil Parish of Killea, in the Barony of Gaultiere, in the County of Waterford

    The land was once gifted and belonged to the Leper Hospital in Waterford City as a source of income. Some of the land was once comanage.
    The barony was established in 1672 post Cromwell. The name Gaul Tier means Land of the Foreigners, specifically the Vikings who were ousted from Waterford City with the Norman Invasion of 1171, King Henry 11. Ballygunner and Ballytruckle are place names of the Vikings Gunnar and Truckle, both would have been outside the city walls and were in Gaultier.
  • Michaelkelly Kelly said:
    Liam Cheasty Thanks! Super interesting.
  • Michaelkelly Kelly said:
    beachcomber australia Thanks!

The Bishop's daughter from the Shannon's waters

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NMRTC Beaufort Sailor of the Year Hospital Corpsman Second Class Caleb Ellis 250106-N-CQ135-6002

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  • k said:
    Great photo of the person!!!!

Soiscel Molaise

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  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
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