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Here are conversations that have happened in the last week on Flickr Commons:

26_0020164 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    That December weather in Chula Vista is tough! 😄

26_0020220 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    Probably not Patty Hill. In very large data sets, you get a few like this...

23_0087521 Convair Negative Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    Start cart?

26_0017843 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    There's a line to the left of the California flag that sure looks like a double exposure or some other flaw. There apparently was a Red Lion at, or near, the San Diego Convention Center about the year of this photo.

Mrs. Ratan Lata, standing (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    Mrs. Ratan Lata is probably the wife of a Mr. Ratan Lata who was a wealthy merchant in Bombay.

    See
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Sep 23 1912, P. 4
    www.newspapers.com/article/pittsburgh-post-gazette-genera...

    "Glasgow (Scotland) Herald, Sept. 7.
    A Reuter's telegram from Bombay says that Mr. Ratan Lata of the firm of Messrs. Lata (Limited), merchants there, proposes that the lord mayor of London or some other notable person should open a subscription for a world memorial to Gen. Booth, countries that have been benefited by the general's work being asked to participate. Mr. Ratan Lata proposes that the funds should be utilized for securing works of a permanent character, and, that each country should raise its own fund to create its own memorials. Mr. Ratan Lata heads the Indian subscription list with £6,500 ($32,500). Gen. Bramwell Booth is cheered by the immedlate response he has received to the Gen. Booth memorial appeal. He has been especially encouraged by the promise of £5,000 ($25,000) from Sir Francis Reckitt, In addition to the sum with which Mr.Ratan Lata has opened the memorlal fund in India."
  • swanq said:
    But something else makes me wonder if the last name should actually be Tata. See
    www.facebook.com/humansofbombay/posts/remembering-the-leg...

    There's a photo that could be of the same woman.
  • swanq said:
    That does seem to be the case. See Page 3 in www.tatacentralarchives.com/documents/VOL-03-ISSUE-1-2004...
    "Sir Ratan Tata (1871-1918)
    Founder of the House of Tata, was born in Bombay on January 20, 1871. He was educated at the St. Xavier's College in Bombay.

    He married Navajbai, daughter of Ardeshir Merwanji Sett in 1892. In 1896 he joined Tata Sons & Co. as a partner and was a Director in all the Companies of which Tata Sons & Co. were Agents and in most of the Tata promoted companies."

    "On the death of General Booth of the Salvation Army, Sir Ratan gave a donation of Rs. 1 lakh to the Memorial as a gift, for, he believed, like his father, that it would be used for the best advantage of humanity."

    The lady in this photo may have been known as Lady Navajbai Tata. See www.tatatrusts.org/about-tatatrusts/about-lady-navajbai
    and
    www.legalwiz.in/blog/lady-navajbai-tata-commitment-to-ser...
  • swanq said:
    Another photo from the same studio, Lafayette of London,
    was in
    The Sketch [London], Nov 21 1906, P. 34
    www.newspapers.com/article/the-sketch-portrait-of-mrs-rat...

    "Mr. and Mrs. Ratan Tata are well known and very wealthy Parsees, and are to take up their residence in York House, Twickenham, which Mr. Tata purchased the other day. Mrs. Tata is a familiar figure in London, and is renowned for her superb jewels and her Anglo-Indian style of dress. York House was once the home of James II., then Duke of York, and subsequently passed into the possession of the late Comte de Paris."
    Photograph by Lafayette, London.

Crown Prince of Spain, baby in chair (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    A possibility is
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso,_Prince_of_Asturias_(1907–1938)
    "Alfonso, Prince of Asturias (10 May 1907 – 6 September 1938), was heir apparent to the throne of Spain from birth until the abolition of the monarchy in 1931. He renounced his rights to the defunct throne in 1933. Alfonso was the eldest son of King Alfonso XIII of Spain and Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg."

    Top right picture at www.facebook.com/groups/princealbertandqueenvictoria/post...
    looks like another shot from the same occasion.
  • swanq said:
    His mother is in this Bain photo
    Queen of Spain, 1915 (LOC)
  • Barb said:
    He also had hemophilia.

Dr. F. Vandeen, portrait bust, photograph by Otto Becker & Ma. (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

Gen. D'Amade, three-quarters standing, in uniform (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_d%27Amade

    "Albert Gérard Léo d'Amade (24 December 1856 – 11 November 1941) was a French general. In January 1908 he replaced General Antoine Drude in Morocco. In February 1915, he received the Corps expéditionnaire d'Orient and subsequently led them during the initial stages of the Gallipoli campaign.

    Lt. Col. John Henry Patterson, who commanded the Zion Mule Corps at Gallipoli, was stationed near General d'Amade's forces just before the general left the Dardanelles for France. In chapter 14 of his book, With the Zionists in Gallipoli, he discusses his great respect for General d'Amade and the general's son, Gerard, who was killed in February 1915."

Marchioness Landsdowne, three-quarters portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    One possibility is
    Maud Evelyn (née Hamilton), Marchioness of Lansdowne (1850-1932), Royal courtier; wife of 5th Marquess of Lansdowne; daughter of 1st Duke of Abercorn
  • swanq said:
    Her Find a Grave Memorial has what is presumably a colorized version of this photograph, indicating that this picture may have been cropped by Bain or Bain's source for the picture
    www.findagrave.com/memorial/74125389/maud_evelyn-petty-fi...

R. Kipling, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling
    "Joseph Rudyard Kipling (/ˈrʌdjərd/ RUD-yərd; 30 December 1865 – 18 January 1936) was an English journalist, novelist, poet and short-story writer. He was born in British India, which inspired much of his work."

    His travel from India to England in 1889 involved a trip across the U.S. from San Francisco to New York.

H.L. Wilson, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lane_Wilson
    'Henry Lane Wilson (November 3, 1857 – December 22, 1932) was an American attorney, journalist, and diplomat who served successively as United States Minister to Chile (1897–1904), Minister to Belgium (1905–09), and Ambassador to Mexico (1909–13). He is best known to history for his involvement in the February 1913 coup d'état which deposed and assassinated President of Mexico Francisco I. Madero, for which he remains controversial and "perhaps the most vilified United States official of [the 20th] century" in Mexico.'

Jane Addams, portrait bust, copyright by E.D. Waters (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Addams
    "Laura Jane Addams (September 6, 1860 – May 21, 1935) was an American settlement activist, reformer, social worker, sociologist, public administrator, philosopher, and author. She was a leader in the history of social work and women's suffrage. In 1889, Addams co-founded Hull House, one of America's most famous settlement houses, in Chicago, Illinois, providing extensive social services to poor, largely immigrant families. Philosophically a "radical pragmatist", she was arguably the first woman public philosopher in the United States. In the Progressive Era, when even presidents such as Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson identified themselves as reformers and might be seen as social activists, Addams was one of the most prominent reformers.

    An advocate for world peace, and recognized as the founder of the social work profession in the United States, in 1931 Addams became the first American woman to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize; she shared the win with Nicholas Murray Butler. Earlier, Addams was awarded an honorary Master of Arts degree from Yale University in 1910, becoming the first woman to receive an honorary degree from the school. In 1920, she was a co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)."

    "In 1912, she helped start the new Progressive Party and supported the presidential campaign of Theodore Roosevelt."
  • swanq said:
    This photo looks to have been used as the basis for a portrait in
    The Oakes times (Oakes, N.D.), August 15, 1912, page 1
    www.loc.gov/resource/sn87096017/1912-08-15/ed-1/?sp=1&amp...

    and photo on
    Bismarck daily tribune (Bismarck, Dakota [N.D.]), October 1, 1912 , page 1
    www.loc.gov/resource/sn85042242/1912-10-01/ed-1/?sp=1&...
    may be in the same outfit, but with a hat.

Com. W.S. Sims, U.S.N. (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sims
    "William Sowden Sims (October 15, 1858 – September 28, 1936) was an admiral in the United States Navy who fought during the late 19th and early 20th centuries to modernize the navy. During World War I, he commanded all United States naval forces operating in Europe. He also served twice as president of the Naval War College."
    ...
    "From 1911 to 1912, Sims attended the Naval War College. Promoted to captain in 1911, he became Commander, Atlantic Destroyer Flotilla in July 1913."

C.P. Grandfield, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    New York Times, November 14, 1909, Page 6
    www.nytimes.com/1909/11/14/archives/hitchcock-to-try-fefo...
    "WASHINGTON, Nov. 13.—Dr. Charles P. Grandfield, First Assistant Postmaster General, was to-day appointed Postmaster of this city, to succeed the late Benjamin A. Barnes. Dr. Grandfield has been in the Postal Service about twenty-five years, and is familiar with all the various reforms that Postmaster General Hitchcock desires."

    But it looks as though he didn't make that career switch after all.
    NYT, October 1, 1910, Page 18
    www.nytimes.com/1910/10/01/archives/capitals-new-postmast...
    "WASHINGTON, Sept. 30.—Norman A. Merritt of Lockport, N. Y., was to-day appointed Postmaster of Washington. Charles P. Grandfield, First Assistant Postmaster General, had been appointed and confirmed as Postmaster for Washington, but later it was decided to retain him in his old position.
    ...
    The change in the nomination was made because of the desire of the Post Office Department to retain Dr. Grandfield as First Assistant Postmaster General, on account of his familiarity with the proceedings of the department."

    "

Andrew Carnegie, portrait, copyright by F.B. Johnston (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

Geo. L. Lilley, cameo portrait (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_L._Lilley
    "George Leavens Lilley (August 3, 1859 – April 21, 1909) was an American politician who served as a United States representative from Connecticut's at-large district, and as the 63rd governor of Connecticut.
    ...
    A member of Connecticut Republican State Committee from 1901 to 1909, Lilley also served in the Connecticut House of Representatives from 1901 to 1903.

    Lilley was elected as a Republican to the 58th, 59th, and 60th Congresses, holding office from March 4, 1903, to January 5, 1909. He did not seek renomination in 1908, having become a candidate for Governor."

Sir Arthur Vicars, standing, three-quarters (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Vicars
    "Sir Arthur Edward Vicars, KCVO (27 July 1862 – 14 April 1921), was a genealogist and heraldic expert. He was appointed Ulster King of Arms in 1893, but was removed from the post in 1908 following the theft of the Irish Crown Jewels in the previous year. He was murdered by the IRA in 1921 during the Irish War of Independence."
  • clive422 said:
    swanq Fascinating details.

Ferreira, Prime Minister of Portugal, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Ferreira_do_Amaral
    "Francisco Joaquim Ferreira do Amaral, GCTE (Lisbon, Santa Catarina, 11 June 1843 – 11 August 1923) was a Portuguese naval commander and politician."
    In office as Prime Minister: 4 February 1908 – 26 December 1908

J.L. Bristow, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_L._Bristow
    'Joseph Little Bristow (July 22, 1861 – July 14, 1944) was a Republican politician from the American state of Kansas. Elected in 1908, Bristow served a single term in the United States Senate where he gained recognition for his support of several political causes of the Progressive Era. In retirement, Bristow was a farmer in Annandale, Virginia.

    Bristow was a bit player in a legendary episode in American political folklore when his Senate speech on "what the country needs" moved a bored Vice President Thomas R. Marshall, the presiding officer, to stage whisper "What this country really needs is a good five-cent cigar."'

H. Reuterdahl, seated (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Reuterdahl
    "Henry Reuterdahl (August 12, 1870 – December 21, 1925[citation needed]) was a Swedish-American painter highly acclaimed for his nautical artwork. He had a long relationship with the United States Navy.

    In addition to serving as a Lieutenant Commander in the United States Naval Reserve Force, he was selected by President Theodore Roosevelt to accompany the Great White Fleet voyage in 1907 to document the journey. In addition to his artwork, he was a frequent writer on naval topics, and served as an editor of Jane's Fighting Ships.

    See also:
    www.findagrave.com/memorial/49357474/henry-reuterdahl/photo

Funck-Brentano, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frantz_Funck-Brentano
    "Frantz Funck-Brentano (15 June 1862 – 13 June 1947) was a French historian and librarian. He was born in the castle of Munsbach (Luxembourg) and died at Montfermeil. He was a son of Théophile Funck-Brentano."

Sir Cecil Arthur Spring Rice, portrait bust (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Spring_Rice
    'Sir Cecil Arthur Spring Rice, GCMG, GCVO (27 February 1859 – 14 February 1918) was a British diplomat who served as British Ambassador to the United States from 1912 to 1918, as which he was responsible for the organisation of British efforts to end American neutrality during the First World War.
    He was also a close friend of US President Theodore Roosevelt, and served as best man at his second wedding.
    He is best known as the writer of the lyrics of the patriotic hymn "I Vow to Thee, My Country".'

E.H. Harriman, seated in chair (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    See
    E.H. Harriman, seated in chair (LOC)

E.H. Harriman, seated in chair (LOC)

from The Library of Congress

  • swanq said:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._H._Harriman
    "Edward Henry Harriman (February 20, 1848 – September 9, 1909) was an American financier and railroad executive."
  • swanq said:
    See very similar photo at
    E.H. Harriman, seated in chair (LOC)
    and
    Some of E.H. Harriman's greatest feats in railroad construction (LOC)

Unidentified Man

from George Eastman Museum

Vampire jet after record flight Brisbane to Sydney, Australia, 1949

from State Library of New South Wales

  • Francesco Dini said:
    Outstanding image 🌟
  • covid convict said:
    I gather the pilot was F/Lt C.D. Murphy, DFC...he was evidently known as Des...

    trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/212200987 - the Brisbane Telegraph, 18th July, 1949...report on Murphy's first record breaking flight from Sydney to Brisbane on 18th July, 1949...per the Bris Tele, the time was 70 minutes...

    trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/27583304 - SMH, 21st July, 1949...report on Murphy's second record breaking flight...this time on the return leg from Brisbane to Sydney on 20th July, 1949...per the SMH, the time was 62 minutes...
  • covid convict said:
    I haven't managed to discover who made the first non-stop flight between Sydney and Brisbane (either direction)...in 1921 Bert Hinkler flew his Avro non-stop from Sydney to Bundaberg in 8hrs 40mins...

    In December 1926 Edgar Percival with passenger George Cutts flew non-stop from Sydney to Brisbane in a DH.9 in 4hrs 35mins...

    trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16340080 - SMH, 14th December, 1926...brief report on Percival's flight

When Colonialists were the "Good Guys"?

from National Library of Ireland on The Commons

  • 2 older comments, and then…
  • Niall McAuley said:
    I'm going to guess this was a copy, and that one of the soldiers is a relation of the Mrs. Gough who ordered it.
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    Calling beachcomber australia. Come in beachcomber australia. Try the catalogue now, please!
  • Niall McAuley said:
    The Gambia Regiment is a possibility, per wikipedia:
    The parade uniform of the regiment consisted of khaki drill shorts with red fezzes, along with scarlet zouave-style jackets. The jacket style was inherited from the West India Regiment. The jackets had a yellow edging and red cummerbunds. In the field, the regiment originally wore a variation of the Kilmarnock cap, but just prior to World War II this changed to the slouch hat. Similarly, British officers attached to the regiment initially wore pith helmets, but they also later changed to the slouch hat. Although most uniforms in the RWAFF were similar, the special distinction of the Gambia Regiment was a khaki and brown puggree, and a brown cummerbund.
  • Suck Diesel said:
    Similar?

    collection.nam.ac.uk/detail.php?acc=1977-09-130-6
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Or the Northern Nigeria regiment, maybe
  • Niall McAuley said:
    Seem to be a lot of possibilities!

    The RWAFF:
    The parade uniform of the RWAFF throughout its history was a distinctive one. It comprised khaki drill, red fezes, sleeveless scarlet zouave style jackets edged in yellow, and red cummerbunds. Artillery units wore blue jackets with yellow braid and engineers red with blue braid. African sergeants and warrant officers were distinguished by yellow braiding on the front of their jackets. The badge on the fez was a palm tree.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    Calling National Library of Ireland on The Commons !
    NLI site still not working for me! "403 Forbidden" still ...

    21 August 1916 was a Monday ...
  • National Library of Ireland on The Commons said:
    beachcomber australia I passed that along.
  • CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY said:
    The African soldiers are possibly from Uganda, another failed British colony. Look at the hats on these guys-
    collection.nam.ac.uk/detail.php?acc=1974-08-37-3-20

    Maybe Nigerian, look at the hats and tunics.
    scontent.fmel17-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/511308106_7...

    www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=706073618844587&set=pcb....

    www.facebook.com/officialhistorydaily/posts/how-the-niger...

    Maybe Ghana.

26_0024683 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    This was about a week before the big test in front of the news media. Rehearsal?

26_0024686 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    The brassboard version would look cool in the Admiral's office:

26_0024688 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    Please make note of the Cattle Crossing sign to the left of the Admiral's head.

26_0024691 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    What's the guy's nametag say on the right?

26_0050091 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    The tag "el dedazo," (almost my entire Spanish vocabulary), comes from historic elections in the United States of Mexico when PRI had a lock on the Presidency. Under PRI, it was said the President was chosen by, "el dedazo." Press articles would say it means "the pointing finger."

26_0024703 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    What's the guy's name on the right?

26_0024724 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    What's the tour guide's name tag say?

26_0024739 Rohr Collection Image

from SDASM Archives

  • Chuck Walla said:
    See, "Chula Vistan chosen to be first Negro Admiral in U.S. naval history," Chula Vista Star-News, 04/29/1971. The Admiral Samuel Lee Gravely, Jr. died in 2002.

Wentworth Park Panorama c. 1920

from State Library of New South Wales

  • 4 older comments, and then…
  • Stephen said:
    Wow - what a fascinating panorama!! It looks west towards Glebe, with Wattle Street in the foreground. It is a shame that this precinct was spoilt by the construction of the huge greyhound racing facility in 1932. Thankfully it is now being demolished.

The Colored Idea Band of Sonny Clay arrives in Sydney, 1928 / Sam Hood

from State Library of New South Wales

  • 7 older comments, and then…
  • jessamyn west said:
    David in Delta Thanks for IDing Ivie Anderson, I've added this image to her Wikipedia page