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Queen Elizabeth's Cup, Kilkenny Cathedral. Silver.

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  • guliolopez said:
    I am reading:
    [...] Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth of Glorious [...] [...] was promoted to the {See?} of [...] [...] {???} Daughter to {????} Bishop [...] [...] {???} Richard Pococke Lord Bishop [...]
    So maybe something to do with Richard Pococke?
  • guliolopez said:
    OK. I think I found the full text here. Something to do with Kilkenny and Ossory alright:
    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth of Glorious Memory gave this cup to the Right Revd. Dr. Jonas Wheeler,. When he was promoted to the See of Ossory. Mrs. Sarah[...]
    I'll include the text from "Old Church Plate of Kilkenny City" by R. Wyse Jackson from the Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland shortly.
  • B-59 said:
    Elizabethan Cocoanut Flagon From 'Old Church Plate of Kilkenny City', R. Wyse Jackson The Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland Vol. 81, No. 1 (1951), pp. 26-28 www.jstor.org/stable/25510761?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents www.flickr.com/photos/66311327@N05/31029507092/
  • guliolopez said:
    Yup - Looks like B-59 and I stumbled upon the same text. Here is the full text (with the diagram that B-59 includes above). It's in a section of "Old Church Plate of Kilkenny City" by R. Wyse Jackson from the Journal of the RSAI (1951). The section is titled "Description of the Kilkenny Plate":
    An Elizabethan Cocoanut Flagon, perhaps domestic rather than ecclesiastical, sumptuously mounted in decorated strap-work, presented by Queen Elizabeth to Jonas Wheeler, Bishop of Ossory 1613-40. Cocoanut was a popular material for cups from an early date - e.g., the goblet of circa 1450 with silver mountings in New College, Oxford, or the 1523 cup of the Vintners' Company. The polished surface of the nut is elaborately engraved with the royal arms of Elizabeth with supporters -- dexter a lion rampant guardant and crowned, sinister the Tudor dragon of Cadwallader; with a formalised woodland hunting scene containing a boar, a hound and birds, and with a classical mythological scene perhaps representing Mars and Venus. The lid is similarly decorated with flowers, foliage, birds, a hare and a hound. Description -- Flagon on silver foot, with silver handle and silver-mounted hinged lid. Greatest diameter, 4 inches, foot 3 1/2 inches, neck 3 inches, overall height including lid, 9 inches. The weight, XII oz IIII dwt, is inscribed below the base. London hall marked on neck and on base. Leopard's head crowned, lion passant, no maker's mark, and date letter very worn but probably that for 1587-8. The silver neck bears a crest (probably eighteenth century) of a mailed hand holding a barbed arrow-head or "pheon" and a further eighteenth century inscription in four lines which tells (somewhat unreliably) the story of the travels of this interesting piece. "Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth of Glorious Memory gave this cup to the Right Revd. Dr. Jonas Wheeler, When he was promoted to the See of Ossory. Mrs. Sarah Wheeler, Relict of a Descendant from him, Daughter to Arch Bishop Vesey and Sister of Bishop Vesey, presented it to Dr. Richard Pococke Lord Bishop of Ossory, who leaves it to his Successors Bishops of Ossory." Clearly the facts as set out, were clouded by family tradition, for Bishop Wheeler did not become Bishop of Ossory until 1613, ten years after Elizabeth's death. However, there is no reason for doubting that it had previously been her gift to him. (He had been chaplain to Queen Elizabeth and to James I. He died at Dunmore, Leix, aged 97 and was buried at St. Canice's Cathedral. Harris' Ware further says of him that "he was esteemed Prelate of the most conversible, obliging, hospitable temper, and of great Piety".) It seems probable that the flagon was given to him when he became Dean of Christ Church Dublin in 1594. John Vesey had been Archbishop of Tuam, 1678-1716, and of Ossory, 1714-30. Richard Pococke, traveller and topographical writer on Syria and the East, was Bishop of Ossory, 1756-65.
    Was really intrigued by the description and bio of Richard Pococke - had never heard of him before....
  • beachcomber australia said:
    @ DannyM8 There's a dog ! (see note)

Chaplain The Reverend E R Bredin

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  • EastMarple1 said:
    I am pretty sure that he must be Edward Robert BREDIN who crops up in many navy lists as on www.ancestry.co.uk

    see also www.hmswarrior.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/the%20vessel.htm
  • EastMarple1 said:
    He married a daughter of the Rector of Wark upon Tyne, Northumberland, in 1923
  • EastMarple1 said:
    I did a search of www.findmypast.co.uk as well and found a reference to him leaving the country by sea in 1960 (presumably going on holiday as the destination was the Canaries) Born 31 July 1883 in Ireland. In December 1960 he gave his occupation as Priest. Clerk in Holy Orders. Address Old Pottery Cottage, Brede, Rye, Sussex.
  • Denise Jackson said:
    Death records show Edward Robert Bredin was born 31st July 1883. He died within the registration district of Hastings & Rother, Sussex in 1977.
  • Denise Jackson said:
    Crockfords 1932 shows BA 1905, MA 1928. Parishes: Ballymoney 1906-07, St Mk Harrogate 1907-11, Chaplain RN HMS Forte 1911-12, HMS Yarmouth 1912-13, HMS Warrior 1913-16, HMS Bonaventure 1916-18, HMS Commonwealth 1918-19, Rector of Wark-on-Tyne 1919-26, Ulcombe, Diocese of Canterbury from 1926.

Gen. J. O'Ryan - Blum - Stirez - Genns (LOC)

  • Fred Sobotka said:
    Rabbi Abraham Blum was New York's first Jewish police chaplain.
  • Dave Conner said:
    Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Police History, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
  • Dave Conner said:
    Thanks for adding this to the Police History Group -- Seen in Police History (?)
  • mikescottnz said:
    John Francis O'Ryan (August 21, 1874 - January 29, 1961) was Commanding General of the 27th Division during World War I. His years of service 1898-1920. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._O%27Ryan The 27th Infantry Division was a unit of the Army National Guard in World War I and World War II. The Division traces its history from the 6th Division, made up of New York units and formed in May 1917. The 6th Division designation was changed to the 27th Division in July 1917.
  • Jon (LOC P&P) said:
    Thanks mikescottnz, we'll add Gen. O'Ryan's full name to our catalog record.