Powerhouse Museum

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Located in Sydney, Powerhouse Museum is the largest museum group in Australia. Powerhouse sits at the intersection of the arts, design, science and technology and plays a critical role in engaging communities with contemporary ideas and issues.

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Woolloomooloo Bay, with SS Mariposa at the wharf

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  • beachcomber australia said:
    @ PhMC - WOOLLOOMOOLOO (and the Persistent URL too). No big deal except it is not showing up in tags and searches.
  • beachcomber australia said:
    The 'Gulf of Guinea' steam ship in the background first came to Sydney on 26 December 1888, There is a very full description in the SMH of 27/12/1888 - trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13708685?searchTerm=gulf of guinea .

    The SS Mariposa was a regular visitor to Sydney from San Francisco, and Sarah Bernhardt sailed on her in August 1891 ( trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13834586?searchTerm=sarah bernhardt mariposa ). She even considered BUYING the ship for a world tour - trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13837128?searchTerm=sarah bernhardt mariposa .

    Searching for 'Mariposa Gulf of Guinea' in Trove, it came up with this list of ships in harbour on Monday 19/9/1892 . Could this be the date of this photo? Or is that too simple? trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13879595?searchTerm=gulf of guinea mariposa
  • BobMeade said:
    Well done beachcomberaustralia.

    Good information about the ships. And great spotting of the Blue Peter flag.

    What do you think the substantial building on the horizon at the left of the Blue Peter is? I'm thinking it may be the rear of Sydney Hospital, but I'm not sure.

    The date you have identified on which both ships were in the bay, Monday 19 September 1892 is a very good possibility as the date of this photograph. However it cannot yet be taken as definitive because of the problems with Optical Character Recognition with the text of the old newspapers in the National Library of Australia's Trove database.

    You search mainly works on the OCR derived text which is displayed in the left hand side window at the link you have given. As you would have also noticed, much in that text ("Electronically Translated Text") box is scrambled googledegook.

    If in another shipping notice in the Sydney Morning Herald or another newspaper the two ships are also noted as being in the bay at the same time, but one of the names is not correctly "electronically translated" then it would not have shown up in your search.

    So we cannot yet say that is the date. But it may be.

    Many wonderfully dedicated people are working online to correct the text, so the searches are becoming more accurate and complete every day:

    trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/hallOfFame

    I've also written a little about this problem with the Optical Character Recognition on my blog here:

    lifeasdaddy.typepad.com/lifeasdaddy/2009/10/should-the-na...

    On another note, Mariposa was also used later for another ship which plied the trade to Australia, e.g. here:

    www.powerhousemuseum.com/imageservices/index.php/2009/08/...

    and here:

  • beachcomber australia said:
    BobMeade, thanks for taking the time to explain the problems with OCR technology - I have taken note to be cautious, but what a terrific and easy tool for research it will be when reliable.

    It took me a while to find out, but the "substantial building on the horizon" (see note) is the then recently completed (1891) Australian Club on the SW corner of Bent and Macquarie Streets. See -


    Yes, there are many photos of the later Mariposa (Spanish for butterfly) on flickr and elsewhere, but there is also another picture of this ship, at the same Cowper Wharf from the opposite direction, by our old mate Henry King, -
  • beachcomber australia said:
    There is an 1888 online interactive map of Woolloomooloo, which lists the names of the occupiers and the owner (Brown) of the terrace houses in the foreground. From left to right they were: Hide, Becket, Jenkins, McSanley, McMillan in Nos.24 - 16 Duke Street. I wonder if they were still there in 1892?
    www.nla.gov.au/apps/cdview?pi=nla.map-raa31-s2-sd&rgn...

General Post Office from Moore Street, Sydney

  • beachcomber australia said:
    Photo c. 1914 ?
  • uminarampart said:
    CBA started construction in 1911.
  • Philip Cohen said:
    CBA started construction 1915; completed 1916; so, indeed, the vacant block is likely late 1914, early 1915 …
  • covid convict said:
    Building on SE cnr Pitt/Moore Sts demolished in ?April/May 1913... trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15419883
  • covid convict said:
    I suspect the date is somewhere in the range late 1913-early 1914...the period when construction work on the new Commonwealth Bank building was in abeyance...

    Kensington Chambers, the building that occupied the SE cnr of Pitt/Moore Sts was demolished in ca. April-June 1913...it appears to have been mostly demolished at the time of the foundation stone laying ceremony for the new Commonwealth Bank building, which took place on 14th May, 1913. Some excavation work for the new Commonwealth Bank building was completed by October 1913...but due to delays in the tendering process, the building contract wasn't awarded until November 1913 (to Phippard Bros)...the building work proper began in ca. February 1914...the new Commonwealth Bank building was more or less complete by mid 1916...the official opening took place on 22nd August, 1916...

    See comments/links here
    www.flickr.com/photos/193158484@N02/53698777267/

Drafting Sheep

  • Spooky Adjustment said:
    A judas sheep on a lead, being used to get the flock into the slaughter house or shearing sheds.?
  • beachcomber australia said:
    1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - zzzz - 15 - 16 - zzzz ..........
  • covid convict said:
    trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/165000525 - the Sydney Mail, 25th October, 1905...this Sydney Mail pic looks to have been taken a few minutes later...

    The Sydney Mail's caption: 'Wethers moving quietly into the shearing shed. The mob is led by a pet sheep, which is used as a decoy.'

    On p. 1058 the Sydney Mail states that most of the pics that appeared in its 'Harvesting the Golden Fleece' pictorial were taken at Belltrees station, near Scone, in the Upper Hunter Valley, in NSW...so that might be the location...

    These other Kerry & Co pics appeared in the Sydney Mail 'Harvesting the Golden Fleece' pictorial
    www.flickr.com/photos/powerhouse_museum/4903870088/
    www.flickr.com/photos/powerhouse_museum/4903869872/
  • covid convict said:
    17-18-19-20-zzz

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